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If you read down through the article linked above, it says that "medium and heavy duty vehicles will be emission free by 2045".Doc B wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:58 pmI'm assuming since it says passenger cars...trucks will be exempt. I don't see how electric could meet the needs of the huge numbers of farmers, ranchers, construction folk that require 3/4 trucks, to haul their big trailers around. So, for those that can't afford a $60,000 truck...the others will be stuck with a $35,000 electric thing, that has to be plugged in somewhere. I'm guessing the emission savings will be offset by the number of folks that will driving big trucks around, to avoid forced electricity. Skip, I don't find it odd, at all. As you say...par for California. My wife is from northern CA. She likes to say..."where the fruits and nuts are grown...not, where they live."
Gunsil wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:58 pmI have no idea what you guys have a problem with here. If they have batteries that can power a car or pick-up truck for a thousand mile drive who cares? The world will run out of oil and gasoline sooner or later and electric cars can easily be much more powerful than internal combustion engine vehicles. Plenty of modern electric cars can do 0-60 under 3.5 seconds with top speeds over 160 MPH. They are more quiet to drive, have all amenities, and plenty of power, what's not to like? Right now the only drawback is travel distance between charges, if they solve that one it is a no-brainer that they will be better. By the way, I was a Porsche master mechanic most of my life and a motor head, but if there is more power and better handling to be had I say bring it on!! Ford already has electric pick-ups and check out Rivian Company, looks like they're making a cool pick-up. Grow up, stop whining, and get with the times guys!! Y'all sound like the folks who complained when gas powered cars replaced horse and buggies.
Sharp and shiny, what the heck are you talking about charging every day? Many folks don't drive more than ten miles a day and right now most electrics get 250 miles per charge, which means they would only need a charge every twenty days, if your driver did twenty miles a day they would only have to charge every ten days. I think they will likely have the technology to go a thousand miles by 2035, making the argument moot. I like to drive, own a classic Porsche, but I like to drive cross country too, doing 6-700 miles a day, so right now I have no use for an EV, but if they make one that will go a thousand miles and charge in a few hours while sleeping, bring it on!!
Has anyone done the math on the electric usage? I agree not everyone needs to charge every day, but there will be millions of people plugging in their cars every day that aren’t doing that now, so it’s going to strain the system, which is already straining under 40% of the power coming from wind and solar. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the problem that’s coming. The battery technology may never deliver the kind of range that they will need in a country that is thousands of miles from border to border. I’ve been hearing the promise of this mind blowing range for batteries for over 20 years. Believe me I have looked into a lot. I had clients trying to figure out how to make money investing in this great battery technology for over 20 years and it doesn’t exist. If you have insight into something new, please inform me.
Edit. Sorry I messed up this post. I didn’t realize I was posting in the middle of your post.
Assuming all that is true, then the free market will drive the conversion to electric vehicles, just as it did the conversion from horse and buggy to gasoline powered transportation. We don’t need any grandstanding moron politician edicting the change.Gunsil wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:58 pmI have no idea what you guys have a problem with here. If they have batteries that can power a car or pick-up truck for a thousand mile drive who cares? The world will run out of oil and gasoline sooner or later and electric cars can easily be much more powerful than internal combustion engine vehicles. Plenty of modern electric cars can do 0-60 under 3.5 seconds with top speeds over 160 MPH. They are more quiet to drive, have all amenities, and plenty of power, what's not to like? Right now the only drawback is travel distance between charges, if they solve that one it is a no-brainer that they will be better. By the way, I was a Porsche master mechanic most of my life and a motor head, but if there is more power and better handling to be had I say bring it on!! Ford already has electric pick-ups and check out Rivian Company, looks like they're making a cool pick-up. Grow up, stop whining, and get with the times guys!! Y'all sound like the folks who complained when gas powered cars replaced horse and buggies.
Sharp and shiny, what the heck are you talking about charging every day? Many folks don't drive more than ten miles a day and right now most electrics get 250 miles per charge, which means they would only need a charge every twenty days, if your driver did twenty miles a day they would only have to charge every ten days. I think they will likely have the technology to go a thousand miles by 2035, making the argument moot. I like to drive, own a classic Porsche, but I like to drive cross country too, doing 6-700 miles a day, so right now I have no use for an EV, but if they make one that will go a thousand miles and charge in a few hours while sleeping, bring it on!!