TwoFlowersLuggage wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:09 pm That's OK, by 2035 there won't be anywhere worth going...


TwoFlowersLuggage wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:09 pm That's OK, by 2035 there won't be anywhere worth going...
1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:01 pm This thing looks way better than a Tesla, in my opinion.
TPK wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:47 pm1967redrider wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:01 pm This thing looks way better than a Tesla, in my opinion.![]()
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Good luck with that.kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:46 pm The real answer is: don't make unnecessary driving trips. There is an environmental cost whether vehicle is gas or electric.
There is no doubt that Earth is suffering from our resource extraction & use in addition to our population of nearly 8 billion people.
The 'heyday' of "do whatever you want whenever you want to" is over. There is an environmental cost to all the stuff we buy and most of it we don't actually need. The intensity of wildfires, hurricanes, etc. is increasing because of human activity. We all need to act more responsibly.
kj
It could happen sooner than you think. How did we all come to be paying for those subsidies on electric powered vehicles, windmills, etc.samb1955 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:04 pmGood luck with that.kootenay joe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:46 pm The real answer is: don't make unnecessary driving trips. There is an environmental cost whether vehicle is gas or electric.
There is no doubt that Earth is suffering from our resource extraction & use in addition to our population of nearly 8 billion people.
The 'heyday' of "do whatever you want whenever you want to" is over. There is an environmental cost to all the stuff we buy and most of it we don't actually need. The intensity of wildfires, hurricanes, etc. is increasing because of human activity. We all need to act more responsibly.
kj
Well, see it posative Mark. Brings up a lot of investment ideas doesn't it.Sharpnshinyknives wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:27 am Just saw on the news that experts are saying that this mandate WILL over tax the electric grid in CA. The governor wants the only nuclear power plant in the state closed by 2025 and the state completely green by 2045. So I come back to my original post that this is going to cause major problems in California when millions of cars every day are plugged into a system that depends on the sun to shine and the wind to blow, with NO backup.
Not to worry though, these liberal politicians always have a scapegoat, it will be PG&E’s fault and not theirs. They will also blame profiteers from other states that sell them emergency power at ludicrous prices when they run out of power.
Amen!Sharpnshinyknives wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:06 pm
I’m not sure who would have to build out the infrastructure to make alternatives to gasoline work. If the govt does it, then it won’t be done timely, cheaply or efficiently. Plus you will have too many connected people getting a piece of the action to funnel back to politicians like we have now.
If the private sector does it, then it’s got to make economic sense and a profit needs to be made. The key to all this is not the government deciding when this will happen and picking winners and losers, it’s has to be the fundamentals that drive this to work. The problem has been been for decades that we just aren’t there yet. Any state or country that tries to implement all this green energy nonsense is going to be at a huge disadvantage to those that don’t. I for one don’t want my state or country dictating to me what to drive. When they do, it’s no longer a free country. The people of California will be driven out of their own state by the inefficient mandates that drive up the cost of living and are extremely inconvenient. California is setting the stage for their own demise.