case tang stamp

[GARRYOWEN83]

I recently bought a Texas Long Horn on Ebay . I looked at the knife with a magnifying glass and the blades under a 10x loop and does not appear to have been ever used. Strange thing is that the Case tang stamp is 85% missing. 4 dots to the right of the lightning bolt ss and the USA at the very bottom are present only. I find it hard to believe it has worn off.

[Doc B]

Welcome to AAPK. I'm not a Case expert...but if you have pictures...I'm sure they would love to see it.

[Mumbleypeg]

Possibly mis-stamped. It happens. A picture would help, otherwise we’re just speculating. Go to the “Tips and tricks” forum for instruction on posting pictures. viewforum.php?f=98

Welcome to AAPK.

Ken

[GARRYOWEN83]

[GARRYOWEN83]

This guy on Ebay sells what looks to be thousands of knives and didnt mention this in the auction. Im gonna keep it i think and for a hundred bucks im not too bent. I havnt left feed back yet.

[Sharpnshinyknives]

I recently bought a Texas Long Horn on Ebay . I looked at the knife with a magnifying glass and the blades under a 10x loop and does not appear to have been ever used. Strange thing is that the Case tang stamp is 85% missing. 4 dots to the right of the lightning bolt ss and the USA at the very bottom are present only. I find it hard to believe it has worn off.

Gary, Welcome to AAPK. That knife just doesn’t look correct to me. I have never seen a tang stamp worn off like that. I think someone has done something with this knife.
SSk

[Mumbleypeg]

I agree. Blade doesn't look right to me either but may be just the odd angle of your pictures. Here's what it should look like.

Ken

[Sharpnshinyknives]

I agree. Blade doesn't look right to me either but may be just the odd angle of your pictures. Here's what it should look like.

Ken
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There you go Ken. That is what I am use to seeing. I think the blades on Gary’s have been replaced.
SSk

[GARRYOWEN83]

I see what you guys mean. Guess I got took.

[GARRYOWEN83]

The seller just told my that he sent the knife back to case for repair and this is case's work.

[Mumbleypeg]

I see what you guys mean. Guess I got took.

That's BS. Unless he told Case it was okay first. Send it back. If the seller gives you trouble report them to eBay. If you let them get away with it, it just encourages more tomfoolery.

Ken

[GARRYOWEN83]

Thanks for everyone's advise. I'm sending it back Monday

[GARRYOWEN83]

BTW he goes by mimimck on Ebay

[Mumbleypeg]

Stick around. Ask questions. This is a great place to learn, and lots of friendly, helpful and knowledgeable members here. The AAPK store is a good place to shop, too. I don’t see any Texas Lockhorns available currently but there have been in the past and likely will again.

Ken

[peanut740]

The knife is a second.

[GARRYOWEN83]

Stick around. Ask questions. This is a great place to learn, and lots of friendly, helpful and knowledgeable members here. The AAPK store is a good place to shop, too. I don’t see any Texas Lockhorns available currently but there have been in the past and likely will again.

Ken

Hi Ken
Ive been lurking for a few months now and I think I have pick up 10 knives here since. I jumped on a lockhorn here last night. All 9 purchases have been great and the lockhorn i'll know in a few days. One thing about aapk is guys describe and photograph the product very well. I have gotten some good deals on ebay but learning that some have wording and photographic trickery.

BTW my name is Bill not Gary
GARRYOWEN was the regiment I was in haha

[Mumbleypeg]

Be sure to post some pictures here when you receive it.

Ken

[btrwtr]

I believe this seller offers returns so if you are unhappy return it for a refund. The blade with the stamp removed does not have the profile of a Lockhorn blade. Case would not have ground the name off during reconditioning.

[Sharpnshinyknives]

Be sure to post some pictures here when you receive it.

Ken

Ken you might know the answer to this. I had a Parker Texas Lockhorn that I sold a few years ago. It had smaller blades like this one has on the one side. Could that blade have been replaced w/ a blade from a Parker knife? I have deleted my photographs of that knife, otherwise I could compare them myself. That could explain what the seller has done to the tang stamps. Thoughts?
Mark

[Sharpnshinyknives]

Here is someone else’s picture of the Parker knife from the internet. Compare.
SSk

[Mumbleypeg]

Be sure to post some pictures here when you receive it.

Ken

Ken you might know the answer to this. I had a Parker Texas Lockhorn that I sold a few years ago. It had smaller blades like this one has on the one side. Could that blade have been replaced w/ a blade from a Parker knife? I have deleted my photographs of that knife, otherwise I could compare them myself. That could explain what the seller has done to the tang stamps. Thoughts?
Mark

If I’m viewing the pictures correctly the OP knife blade has what appears to be an altered Case 1980’s “lightning S” tang stamp, so my deduction is that it’s a Case blade, either from another pattern or possibly a Lockhorn blade that was re-profiled for some reason. The other blade has the “<TEXAS> LOCKHORN” tang stamp and looks good.

Ken

[Modern Slip Joints]

This is only the gut reaction of a collector who knows a little more than nothing. Peanut didn't put the first half of the idea in my head but he posted it first.

The knife is a second.

I kept a file of the different ways various manufactures defaced their knives to mark them as factory seconds but the antique computer it was on kicked the bucket. If my memory is good grinding off the tang stamp was one of the ways Case did it.

It appears to me that the original poster misread what he saw through his 10X loop. The side of that blade is lightly scratched all over. I think it is a used knife and the blades are not as broad as expected because they lost metal while being resharpened. Both blades lost so much metal their choils are completely gone. Choils are notches that separate a cuting edge from the tang to make sharpening easier. Knives that receive more expensive hand work like Case and Queen normally have choils. Less expensively made knives like Buck and Camillus normally do not have choils. Choils are easy to see in the picture Mumbleypeg posted of the Texas Lockhorn he formerly owned.

It appears that a used factory second was sold as a knife with no defects in as new condition. The computer program that is eBay sides with the buyer if the buyer clicks NOT AS ADVERTISED as the reason they are returning an item. The last time I had to do it the wording was changed to put that in the last half of a sentence but it is not hard to pick out the right reason to click on. It makes no difference what the seller wrote their return policy is in the ad. eBay automatically offers the buyer a postage paid return shipping label to print out. I presume eBay charges the cost of that label to the seller's credit card.

[GARRYOWEN83]

I see what you mean about the choil. This knife is absolutely horrible ,thank god for ebays policys. So i'm panicking a little and rechecking my knives blades/choil.

[GARRYOWEN83]

Here is a few pics of the replacement Lockhorn

[knifeaholic]

The knife is a second.

I agree - there were a bunch of Case factory seconds showing up on Ebay last year. The partial grind-off of a tang stamp indicates a "second".