My Community College Knife Making Experience

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My Community College Knife Making Experience

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Thanks for taking a peek at my adventure into knife making which I’ve had a mild interest throughout my life. My intrigue is the marriage of form and function and seeing that develop with your own hands and tools. When my local community college offered an 8 week, 32 hour class for $125 I couldn’t say no; my 1st class is Monday 6/2/25.

My hope here is to document each 4-hour class and provide the reader a glimpse into the process, the trials and the tribulations. I’ll do my best to provide some photo journalism along the way because sometimes they mean more than words.

Today I’m ordering my supplies from a list provided by my instructor. The class materials and equipment list is:
  • EQUIPMENT
    Safety Glasses
    Apron
    Head Lamp
    Measuring Tape
    Scribe
    Files
  • MATERIALS
    (1) 5/32" 440C bar steel 1-1/4” wide, 3-ft long
    (3) 1/8" pin stock 416-stainless, 1-ft long
    (1) 12" x 12" Black Canvas Micarta
    (2 each) 2X72 grinding belts 60, 120, 240, 400 grits
    (2 each) sheet sandpaper 60, 120, 240, 400 grits
It was recommended to order all supplies from POP’s Knife Supply https://popsknife.supplies/ who I’ve never ordered from before. The instructor of the class is Ed VanHoy who is a designer at Columbia River Knife & Tool (CRKT). Ed invented the lauded Snap Lock™ mechanism, which earned him a load of accolades, including: the A.G. Russell Most Innovative Folding Knife, Most High Tech Design-S.I.C.A.C, Best Fantasy Knife in the Ohio Valley Knife Show 2005, and Knife of the Year at the Blade Show 2004. Ed is living proof that if you love what you do, the rest comes easy. That’s been my credo my entire life.

Come along for the ride, this should be interesting!
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Sounds cool!
I'll be checking in to follow along.
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This sounds really good Tom. I'll be looking forward to hearing/seeing your progress, good luck... ::tu::
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Very cool, Tom! ::tu:: In addition to the $125 tuition, how much do you think the supplies will cost? That's a cool website. There used to be a knife making co-op in Arlington, which is close by. Not sure if it survived the Covid era.
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1967redrider wrote: Thu May 29, 2025 2:00 pm Very cool, Tom! ::tu:: In addition to the $125 tuition, how much do you think the supplies will cost?
The materials were just shy of $150.00 John and that included a $30 UPS shipping charge. ::tu::
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Day 1
I arrived at my class about 10-minutes before the start and was greeted by 8 men and 1 woman and the instructor Ed VanHoy. Brunswick Community College recognized the expanding community of studio-based creative artisans and the role of the arts, entertainment and tourism in the economic development of North Carolina. As such, they built a new building specifically dedicated to knife making, ornamental blacksmithing, and metal sculpture complete with brand new chop saws, grinders, band saws, welders, etc. My class is the first class to use the new facility and equipment.
BCC Entrance.jpeg
Metal Shop Looking Inside.jpeg
The vibe from the beginning was relaxed, informal and supportive. A few of my classmates had prior experience with forging, grinding and finishing but most of us were scratching an itch for the first time and simply seeking another life experience. After the business of confirming the class roster and brief introductions, we jumped right into designing the knife that each of us was planning to produce by the end of the class. The instructor explained that a balanced knife should feel comfortable and easy to handle, with the weight distribution being a key factor in ergonomics. He further explained that the size and proportions of the blade and handle should be appropriate for the tasks the knife is intended for.
Instructor Showing Student Knives.jpeg
The first lesson that Ed taught us was the “Golden Rule (2/5 and 3/5)” which establishes the blade-to-handle length. In essence, the total length of the knife can be related to the blade length using the golden rule, with the handle contributing the remaining proportion. I designed my knife to have the blade length be 1.6 times the handle length. The golden rule will also be applied to other aspects of my knife, such as the thickness of the blade, the vertical and horizontal control lines and the spacing between handle pins, to create visually appealing and balanced proportions. While the golden rule can be a helpful guide, we learned that ultimately, the handle-to-blade ratio is determined by the intended use of the knife and the desired balance of the knife.

Next, we learned that the golden rule could contribute to a knife's aesthetic appeal, but ultimately, the proportions should also be pleasing to the eye. The instructor explained to us how knife makers often develop their own unique styles and preferences, and the golden rule becomes just one of many tools they can use to achieve their desired aesthetic. The instructor made the job of designing our knives easier by having a dozen or so Lucite templates of patterns which are some of the 17,000 knives that he has handcrafted over the past 50 years. We could use these template as-is to design or knives, combine the handle of one template with the blade of another to create a new pattern or design a knife pattern that wasn’t represented in the templates. I drew 6 knives and ultimately settled a sheepsfoot pattern to be used as a small kitchen chopper that was hand drawn and not taken from one of the proven templates.
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Everyone settled in on their designs quickly and once approved by the instructor, the drawn templates were cut out with scissors and the overall length of our knives were known. We then proceeded to the chop saw to cut the section of bar steel that was needed for our knives. The instructor was intentionally hands-off so that each of us could not only experience the interaction of the material with the tool, but we could claim 100% of the handcrafting of our knives without assistance. Safety was paramount to every tool that we used, and briefings were held before the use of any tool and oversight provided during the use of any tool.

We then took the cut bar steel to the grinder and using a 60-grit 2”x72” belt we de-burred both ends and debarked both sides of the bar steel. Here we learned the fine art of plunging the material into the tool and how to safely hold the material without harming your hands. When the instructor was satisfied that we had successfully accomplished both tasks, we then applied Dyken layout fluid to 1-side of the bar steel and within 30 seconds it was dried and ready to be scribed. Our templates were then placed on top of the blued steel and carefully traced using a sharp metal scribe leaving marks that stand out when the template is removed.
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Template Scribed.jpeg
To conclude our day 1 class, the instructor provided us with a vision of the way forward to complete our knives. He started by saying that we weren’t blade smithing (forging) our knives but instead we would be grinding them to remove material and finishing them with either handles or covers. I came to learn that covers are the term used to describe the material that encompasses a full-tang knife (or a pocket knife) and that handles are the term used to describe material that encompasses a partial tang knife (where the tang skips into the material). The instructor said that in teaching over 200 knife making classes in the past 32 years that every knife that was started was ultimately finished and that we should anticipate the same outcomes with this class. We ended on a high note, cleaned up the shop and I left the campus with a strong sense of accomplishment and satisfaction.
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Too cool!
Thanks for taking us along!!
Take care and God bless,

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Awesome, Tom! Looks like a cool experience and you have all the tools necessary for success, including a great instructor. ::nod::👍
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Very cool !
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Steve Warden wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:03 pm Too cool!
Thanks for taking us along!!
Agree.
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Day 2
We started the day with the goal of removing all the stock from our pieces of steel to match our drawn templates. For some of the students this could be accomplished on the two Jet grinders by removing the large wheel that was used last week for deburring and installing 2 smaller wheels and a platen. For the remainder of the students, a combination of the grinders and the band saw were needed to meet today's goal.

Since we made use of the grinders last week, they were already set up and ready to be reconfigured for today’s tasks. Re-configuring the grinders to accommodate 2 smaller wheels and a platen was quick and easy and within a few minutes the two grinders were ready for use. My knife profile necessitated the use of the grinder for the blade profile and the pommel, and the use of the band saw on the tang.
Gabby at the Grinder.jpeg
Steve at Grinder.jpeg
Sparks are Flying.jpeg
Brian at Grinder.jpeg
The two Jet band saws had not been used before and had to be set up for the first time. The instructor wanted to slow the speed of the 14/10 blade to around 100 rpm but struggled with the pulley system to achieve that speed. Several students stepped in and with the help of some trial and error coupled with reading the owner’s manual, the band saws were ready to be used. Since the grinders were already occupied, I jumped in on a band saw to remove the stock on the tang of my knife.
Cliff Solving the Band Saw Dilema.jpeg
Ed Setting Up Band Saw.jpeg
Nathan at Band Saw.jpeg
The instructor worked one-on-one with me to teach me about how slowing down the saw speed can help prevent the blade from catching and drifting off the line. He told me to avoid twisting and not to twist my steel while cutting as this can cause the blade to bind or break. The instructor told me not to make relief cuts for tight curves but instead to use the back edge of the blade to pivot through wide curves. I was taught to focus on the path of the steel entering the blade rather than the blade itself and that it’s ok to correct cuts that drift off the line by turning the saw off, backing the material out, and restarting the cut. I had to remember that the band saw wasn’t producing the finished profile but instead was used to remove bulk stock to make more efficient use of the grinder for areas of my knife like the choil.
Ed and Mike at Band Saw.jpeg
During the time that the band saws were being prepared for their maiden voyage, the only machines that were available were the two grinders. The students were very cordial to each other and rotated out after about 5 minutes so another student could step-in. This process generated some impatience, and a few students made use of a handheld grinding wheel. The instructor was knee-deep in band saw pulleys and belts and didn’t immediately hear the grinding wheels. When he did, he ceased that activity and used it as a learning experience for the entire class rather than reprimand the enthusiastic students. The instructor told us that grinding wheels are dangerous primarily due to the high speeds at which they operate and their ability to cut through hard materials. This can lead to severe injuries if proper safety precautions aren't taken, including the potential for wheel breakage and projectiles flying at high speeds. The instructor told us how grinding wheels are prone to breakage, especially if they are not properly mounted, stored, or used. When a wheel breaks, fragments can fly off at high speeds, causing severe injuries to the operator or those nearby. It was the best takeaway of the day!

When all the students had finished the goal of removing all the stock from their pieces of steel to match their drawn templates, the instructor pulled us together to give us some insight into what we’d be working on next week. The instructor complemented us for having the profiles of our finished knives done after week 2 of 8 but reminded us that much more stock was going to be removed before our steel bars became a knife. Our instructor went on to say that the removal of stock would be done using “control lines" or "plunge lines". These refer to the lines where our blade's bevel meets the ricasso (the blunt part of the blade near the handle). He said that they can be straight, curved, or have varying textures and that these lines play a role in the knife's aesthetics and function, potentially providing a grip or a transition point.
Template Side By Side.jpeg
Template Overlay.jpeg
Once again, we ended up on a high note, cleaned up the shop and I left the campus with a strong sense of accomplishment and satisfaction knowing that piece of steel bar matched the paper template of a knife that I drew a week ago.
Metal Shop Outside.jpeg
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Nice progress, Tom. 😎👍
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::tu:: ::tu::
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Following.
Sounds like a fun class.
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Thanks for sharing and for making it so interesting.
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