Is this typical quality for a Sod Buster Jr.?

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Is this typical quality for a Sod Buster Jr.?

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It looks like every single part of this knife is either asymmetrical, bent or just misaligned. The brass liners are not the same size plus they are bent, the knife tang is bent, the lock is bent and the pivot rivet is hammered in at an angle.

The gap in the scales and the blade being completely off center are the least of the problems going on with this knife and I at least expected those possibilities. I have a #27381 (6207 SS) crimson redbone peach seed jig mini trapper that is flawless compared to this.

Is this typical modern Case Sod Buster craftsmanship? Is it even worth having them send me a replacement or should I just get a refund?
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My 2019 has none of these problems, so no. I'd return it since you bought it new.
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That is absolutely horrible. I'd send those same photos to Case. It looks like some new guy made that knife.

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There is no guy at Case who makes knives. One person sorts the CNC cut out blades, one person stamps the handle liners, one person spins the rivets, etc.
Therefore a bunch of people contributed to making a sub par knife.
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Nobody is calling counterfeit on this one ? I am not the expert on Case knives, but BladeHQ caught my attention. ::hmm::
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bUtMyRiGhTs wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:20 pmIs it even worth having them send me a replacement or should I just get a refund?
https://caseknives.com/pages/warranty- ... quest-form

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SwedgeHead wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:29 am Nobody is calling counterfeit on this one ? I am not the expert on Case knives, but BladeHQ caught my attention. ::hmm::
Is there an issue with BladeHQ? I have bought from them a couple times with no problems.
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Suredan wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:00 am
SwedgeHead wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:29 am Nobody is calling counterfeit on this one ? I am not the expert on Case knives, but BladeHQ caught my attention. ::hmm::
Is there an issue with BladeHQ? I have bought from them a couple times with no problems.
Same here. Their shipping can be a little slow sometimes but they are an Authorized Dealer for numerous knife brands. Not sure about Case but I certainly wouldn’t expect a counterfeit from BladeHQ.

I would find it odd for anyone to counterfeit a Case Sodbuster Jr. They aren’t very expensive and don’t seem worth the effort.
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Nobody counterfeits a $35 knife.

I just love it when folks get something they think is subpar, or eats at a restaurant and didn’t like the food, and then runs to the internet to post their gripes. But when they have a good experience they say nothing. ::shrug::

Today’s internet world! SMH.

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That is really awful, I too would send it back.
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Mumbleypeg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:17 am I just love it when folks get something they think is subpar, or eats at a restaurant and didn’t like the food, and then runs to the internet to post their gripes. But when they have a good experience they say nothing. ::shrug::

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bUtMyRiGhTs wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:20 pm I have a #27381 (6207 SS) crimson redbone peach seed jig mini trapper that is flawless compared to this.
Shout out to the 6207. Mini-Ts Rule! ::ds::
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I had just about talked myself into another Case despite my last 5 bad experiences. Thanks for reminding me of how bad the new ones suck.
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Possibly so. My post (rant) wasn’t aimed as much at the OP as it was about the “internet society” in general. I suppose it is just human nature, and actually has been going on a long time (letters to the editor, etc), but internet social media has made it more prevalent - it’s convenient for airing gripes. I do sometimes see a few positive reviews. In fact there are entire threads here filled with posts extolling the virtues of new acquisitions.

Regarding the OP, I interpret it as the 6207 having been in hand for a while (“I have ……..), with no posts about its near perfection. Whereas the unsatisfactory sod buster is newly acquired, so it was necessary to tell us about it, instead of simply sending it back for refund (or exchange).

Hopefully his first post won’t be his only one - he seems to know something about knives (and has mastered posting pictures).

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SwedgeHead wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 12:29 am Nobody is calling counterfeit on this one ? I am not the expert on Case knives, but BladeHQ caught my attention. ::hmm::
Blade HQ is one of the largest most reputable knife dealers in North America. I would imagine they get their knives directly from Case.
Mumbleypeg wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:17 am Nobody counterfeits a $35 knife.

I just love it when folks get something they think is subpar, or eats at a restaurant and didn’t like the food, and then runs to the internet to post their gripes. But when they have a good experience they say nothing. ::shrug::

Today’s internet world! SMH.

If you don’t like it, send it back!

Rant over - Carry on. ::facepalm::

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Yeah I actually cleared a place on my bar table and sat down to take some really good pictures of this knife as I unboxed it so I could put them on some forums and was in for a rude awakening!
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bUtMyRiGhTs wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:20 pm

Is this typical modern Case Sod Buster craftsmanship? Is it even worth having them send me a replacement or should I just get a refund?
I think the original post was wanting to know from the AAPK members if their Sod Busters were good or bad, No one answered the question yet. I was thinking about getting a Sod Buster. I will definitely wait to actually see it now before I buy it now.

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correction 2/6/24 1000 Cody did respond. Oops!
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Personally, I think the folks at Case need to see the knife so they can take measures to prevent this kind of garbage from getting out the door.

On the other hand, why should that be your responsibility? I suspect that if you return it to BladeHQ for a refund or exchange, the knife will eventually end up back at Case anyway.

I’ve owned one Case Sodbuster and it was a fairly decent knife. Your experience would have soured me on the pattern and I probably wouldn’t want another one if they paid me to take it.
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Not a big fan of the Sodbuster pattern myself as I've always believed them to be the most basic, no frills, stripped down pocketknife pattern; the base model if you will. Nevertheless, even for a base model the OP knife is unacceptable in that condition for having been purchased new. It absolutely must be returned, either to BHQ or to Case. Someone must be held accountable; the buyer should not be expected to accept such poor quality from an American manufacturer who, supposedly, cares about their reputation and, more importantly (to their bottom line), customer loyalty and future sales.
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Railsplitter wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:25 am Personally, I think the folks at Case need to see the knife so they can take measures to prevent this kind of garbage from getting out the door.
I made a warranty request through Case anyway because it allows you to upload a few pictures and I let them know that I felt embarrassed for them for the quality of knife that I received.

The only reason I wanted the basic sod buster jr was because my grandfather used to keep one in his glove box for me to put in my pocket when we went hunting when I was a young kid.

I have shipped the knife back to Blade HQ and since they are sold out of everything, I ordered a nicer version with a mahogany peach seed jig bone handle from somewhere else that is a master Case dealer. Hopefully it's better quality.

Though Blade HQ offers a no hassle return policy I did also send them an email and got zero response from them though I included several pictures. There were several Sod Buster Jr models available just the day before and immediately they were all sold out for some reason when I looked.

Anyway thank you everyone for your input I was just trying to see if this was the norm or not and though no one really answered my question directly the responses definitely set the tone.
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Not BladeHQ's fault, I doubt they open every knife box to inspect before shipping. But definitely Case's quality control lapse. ::barf::
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I did finally get a response from Blade HQ. My response to them was that I ran a partnered/reseller company for 20 years and we always inspected and tested our products before shipping them out to the customer because ultimately we were in charge of warranty and tech support.

I simply recommended that maybe they give the customer the option to let them open the box before it was shipped to them. I can only imagine how much money they would save on return shipping costs alone if they simply looked at the product before it was shipped to the customer.

But yes of course it ultimately does fall on Case as the manufacturer for providing an inferior product which not only makes their partnered resellers look bad themselves, but it also looks bad for their customers that are mostly collectors. I imagine the average Case buyer wants to be proud of the knives that they collect and that's hard to do when it looks like crap.
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That is definitely not the norm for any Case knife, including a Sodbuster. It happens more often than it should, but nowhere near the norm. I am glad that both BladeHQ and Case stand behind their products.

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I still say quality control rests on the manufacturer, customer service on the seller.

Sounds like BladeHQ is making good on their end and I hope anyone not happy with a knife returns it so the manufacturers know there's an issue with their quality control. Let's face it, with 1,000s of knives cranked out, there has to be a percentage of lemons.

Thanks for posting this.
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I don't know Case now, I haven't paid much attention to any of their knives since 1970 , as their knives were less desirable for collecting .

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