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Ben Ogle
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Help identify this tang stamp

Post by Ben Ogle » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:36 am

I would like to know who made this knife. Any info is appreciated.
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by zzyzzogeton » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:30 am

My first impression is that it is a saber cut-down and rehandle.

If it is, then the stamp may be by anyone. The stamp does look like it has been there for a while. There also seems to have the remains of a stamp near the hilt.

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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by terryl308 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:56 pm

I would have to agree with ZZ in that it appears to be a cut down sword, bayonet, or sabre , because of the large and deep fuller. Can't help you with who made it however. Looks like they made a guard out of horn or bone or antler. Also appears to have modified years ago. ::tu:: Terry
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by btrwtr » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:32 pm

This stamp was used on swords made by Friedrick Poetter.
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by Ben Ogle » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:31 am

Thanks for the info! I have researched Friedrick Poetter, and that is definitely the stamp. Is there any value?

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Post by kootenay joe » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:09 pm

J. Anthony Carter's book "German Knife And Sword Makers" does not include any "Poetter". With a first name "Friedrick" it sounds German. A google search brings up numerous listings for "Civil War" swords marked "Friedrich Poetter", a "German sword maker" but no information about this 'manufacturer' ?.
I have not previously found an omission in Carter's book. Can someone posts any informative links or further information ?
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Post by Ben Ogle » Wed Feb 19, 2020 6:46 pm

@kootenay Joe, I have found the same thing. Not much information on him. I would like to know more about it, it’s very interesting.

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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by 1967redrider » Wed Feb 19, 2020 7:04 pm

The handle reminds me of an old dive knife. Is it brass, bone or wood? Can't tell on my cell, thanks!
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by Ben Ogle » Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:17 pm

The handle is brass. But it’s obviously been put on the knife long after the knife was made. It was redone by someone, and they done a pretty good job with the brass.

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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by kootenay joe » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:11 am

btrwtr wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:32 pm
This stamp was used on swords made by Friedrick Poetter.
I am quoting Wayne to lure him back so that he can tell us more about this maker or brand.
Thanks Wayne.
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by zzyzzogeton » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:33 am

Ask for Wayne and you get one, just not the one you were asking for -- :mrgreen:

Friedrich Poetter, sometimes seen as Friedrick Poetter, was a Solingen sword maker during the 1850s through the 1860s.

He made (or at least his company did) number of M1840 NCO swords, Musician's swords, M1840 Wristbreaker sabers, M1850 sabers and M1860 sabers during the 1850s and 1860s. He also made presentation grade versions of the officer's swords.

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Post by kootenay joe » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Thanks for this reply Wayne. Anthony Carter's book if refer to above is considered authoritative and is the result of decades of searching Solingen documents. If F.P. was a sword maker for 10 years it seems very odd that he is not listed in Carter's book. An online search only brings up For Sale listings, nothing about the person or his business.
F.P. 'knives' (edged weapons) are always listed as having some connection to the "Civil War" or Civil War era. Could this be a hoax ? meaning old weapons were re-built and marked "Friedrick Poetter" and sold with a made up history ?
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Re: Help identify this tang stamp

Post by Ben Ogle » Thu Feb 20, 2020 4:35 pm

Interesting theory KJ. Makes sense, as there seems to be no info on him. Any further info would be greatly appreciated.

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