This John Primble knife???

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This John Primble knife???

Post by Aaron43 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:17 am

I’m going through knives that my dad recently passed down to me that he and I collected when I was a kid. Looking to learn more about them. Does anyone know the year and value of this John Primble knife? The tang is stamped with John Primble Belknap HDW & MFG Co.
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Re: This John Primble knife???

Post by tongueriver » Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:06 pm

I will do some guessing and say Ulster U.S.A., 1950s, celluloid handles, value less than $50. Unused and knice! ::tu::

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Post by petesknives » Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:33 pm

I like it, nice knife ::tu::
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Post by philco » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:05 am

If I were starting a knife collection today I'd seriously consider collecting John Primble knives. I live in Kentucky and they have a strong Ky. tie in that Belknap Hardware was based in Louisville, Ky. Most all the Primbles I've encountered were good quality knives. I can remember when I was a young guy the local hardware store had a small display of John Primble knives available for sale. I may have owned one back then, but for the most part, my focus at the time was on Case knives.
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Post by LDF Knives » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:00 am

Aaron43 wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:17 am
I’m going through knives that my dad recently passed down to me that he and I collected when I was a kid. Looking to learn more about them. Does anyone know the year and value of this John Primble knife? The tang is stamped with John Primble Belknap HDW & MFG Co.
the tang looks a little suspicious, to me but It may be just me ?

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Post by btrwtr » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:04 pm

Nothing at all wrong with the knife and a very nice example. I agree it looks like an Ulster made knife.
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Post by petesknives » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:31 pm

Are those "Waterfall " handles?
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Post by btrwtr » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:07 pm

petesknives wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:31 pm
Are those "Waterfall " handles?
I don't think the handles are waterfall. They look like yellow celluloid to me but Boker USA and Primble both used waterfall on knives later than most US companies.
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Post by tongueriver » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:42 pm

I have yet to understand 'waterfall' and it doesn't seem like it means the same to everyone. Is there a thread or something to look at?

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Post by btrwtr » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:51 pm

Waterfall is normally off white to yellowish in color. There should be parallel but curving lines visible in the material and when turned on axis in hand the material will display a water like flow or 3-D type movement. The biggest key is the visual flowing movement in the material. The better the material the more movement IMO. If the handles do not display these qualities it probably isn't waterfall.

Here is a waterfall handled razor and pocket knife. You should be able to see the lines.
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Re: This John Primble knife???

Post by tongueriver » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:01 pm

Thank you, Wayne; it is still a little vague to me but will keep my eyes open and try to remember this.

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Post by petesknives » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:31 pm

I took a video of some of my "waterfall " handle knives it on ytube. It's titled For TPK. Don't know how to post a link to it, maybe someone could help. It's not the best video but it will give you an idea on "waterfall " handles.
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Post by philco » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:35 pm

petesknives wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:31 pm
I took a video of some of my "waterfall " handle knives it on ytube. It's titled For TPK. Don't know how to post a link to it, maybe someone could help. It's not the best video but it will give you an idea on "waterfall " handles.
Is this it ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDIPa8XEt2c
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Post by petesknives » Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:19 pm

Yes, thanks ::tu::
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Post by bocaj » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:00 am

I worked at Belknap's for a few years as a young man and will share one of my greatest regrets in life..... while employed we were given the ability to buy returns, damaged package items and new stock with our employee discount. This frequently resulted in axes for 2$ .... chain for 1$ per pound and of course ..... knives for pennies on he dollar!

Belknap brand were most frequent but many other brands were available. Alas, I used my paycheck for 'spirits' and music and food.

One of the mysteries I will pose to the group is... even though the Belknap company never 'MADE' knives they are collectible and widely known. How is it that Robinson cutlery a firm which actually made really good knives in Louisville does not command the same respect??

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