seen the new Classics?

The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
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seen the new Classics?

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Apparently 150 of each pattern. Are they makin a trail run here or are there
more on the horizon? Roger, or anybody else know anything about this? ::shrug::
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I saw and heard about them from another forum. I put myself on the list for the gunboat at Shepherd Hills Cutlery and my mom did the same for the toenail. I hope they are as well made as the line of classics from the 90's. As long as they keep the numbers down maybe they will continue the series.
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Yeah, I'm real curious about this move by Case, wonder if there are going to be more in the furture. And I wonder about the quality and who is behind this move to bringem back so to speak. It will definitely be a hard sell for me and many others who will measure everything by the brilliant and thoughtful Mr. Jim Parker. needbucks, show pics of your knife when it comes in. I know many will be interested to see them.
Especially me. :)

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Hey Roger, what do you think my friend? ::shrug::
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Hey Guys,

I have seen this Elephant Toenail up close & I must tell ya'll that this knife doesn't even come close to the real Case Classic Elephant Toenail Patterns that were made in 94, 95 & 96 ....The bone scales are very thin with a very poor dye color & have little or no character at all, the blades are thin compared to the blades on a real Case Classic & besides that, they are Stainless Steel & not Carbon Steel (a real thumbs down for a true collector in my book ::td:: ), the way they did the tooling for the "new", duel back springs makes the blades have a dull & weak snap to me, the too small Case Bowtie shield is glued on & that shows a very poor quality issue for not only the Elephant Toe pattern but for the other patterns included in this new series! ....There are only two things about this knife that will make it sell to new comers in the hobby, the main blade etch & the scrolled bolsters! ....The way I see it, W.R. Case & Sons have been monitoring the sales figures & the growing market values for all the knife patterns that were released in the real Case Classic program since the 90's & that is the real reason they came up with this marketing idea friends, to try & compete & make more money, don't be fooled & waste your money on them, buy some real Case Classic knives for your collections! ::nod:: ....Friends, please keep in mind that these are only my own personal opinions about these knives but what I have told you about the quality issues on materials used & the tooling are facts!





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Roger, I had a feelin about this. I can't believe that they would not do
their best to honor and respect the past achievements in this area of the company's history. ::td:: Major ball drop IMO and a disappointing start to a new year. ::tired:: Very tired of companies creating something great
and historic and for whatever reason when given the opportunity to repeat they fall flat on their faces. Too sad indeed. I'm glad you had the chance to see that Etoe my friend and thank you for your insite as always.

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Well, guys. That was pretty much what I was suspecting too. So if nothing else I will just look at them as a very limited edition. Right now, Case is making so many knives that I am a bit worried about the future markets for these latest Case knives. We will all just have to wait and see.

I will post a pic as soon as I get it. Hopefully it should be delivered this month.
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I must say needbucks, that in the past I have been lured by different things, not knowing the whole story sometimes and that is how ya learn.
Then I found this site and the people are so great and willing to help
that it makes collecting and appreciating the knives....well it takes it to a new level for me. And as always collect what you love. Don't let me or thoughts of mine keep you from something you enjoy. I just don't
wanna be burned. I work too hard so I can buy the best, or come close.

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singin46 wrote:Roger, I had a feelin about this. I can't believe that they would not do
their best to honor and respect the past achievements in this area of the company's history. ::td:: Major ball drop IMO and a disappointing start to a new year. ::tired:: Very tired of companies creating something great
and historic and for whatever reason when given the opportunity to repeat they fall flat on their faces. Too sad indeed. I'm glad you had the chance to see that Etoe my friend and thank you for your insite as always.

Perry :mrgreen:
The basic problem for one thing is that Case long ago lost the capability to make knives the old fashioned way like Queen can still do. All of Case's manufacturing and finishing processes have changed to accomodate more mass production and less hand labor.

The other problem I suppose is that Case sells everyhting that they make as fast as they can make it...so apparenlty the collectors of modern Case knives view quality and character in a knife differently than some of us do.
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Knifeaholic,

I am a big fan of Queen made knives as most folks around here know. I was reading the interesting response you made about how Case makes knives these days in comparison to Queen.

I recently purchased several Case/Tony Bose production models that were outstanding and almost perfect in every detail. Did Case contract that work out to someone else or was that accomplished in house?

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Sunburst, good point. As far as I know the Bose collaborations are made in house. That shows that they can still do great work, but on a totally different scale and price point nas compared to the original Classics and the regular production Case knives.
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Seems to me that I read (maybe from Shirley?) that it was a small group of top employees that make the Case/Bose collaborations. I am still lusting for a Muskrat in stag... ::nod:: ::drool::

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Bill,

I have read that somewhere before also but it eludes me now :x maybe someone will share that with us.

I agree 100% with knifeaholic in the fact that Case seems to have lost the art of that old fashioned feel we have come to enjoy with the brand. His response just got me thinking about the Case/Bose collaboration knives. They are in my opinion about as high a quality knife as your going to find even higher than my beloved Schatt's ::drool:: (Sacreligous I know). But the price is also out of this world as well. It makes you wonder if they could have a company within a company to make a premiere brand or model of Case. ::shrug::

This is what makes Queen Cutlery so exciting to me because they seem to be making what the customer is asking for with quality and collectability. And evidently not sacrificing the craftsmanship for mass production.

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Sunburst; (This is what makes Queen Cutlery so exciting to me")
This made me think... :shock:

I should have sent this in PM but I make lots of mistakes.
Did you ever tell Queen's Cutlery in wrighting how much we all here like their knives?
Perhaps Don needs to have a pick-up some days too. ::nod::

Wouldn't this be a nice thing we all should do more of ??
OOPS that made me think... :shock: .... Now I have to buy a Turquoise braclet for my wifey.. ::nod:: Perhaps she will buy me a KNIFE?? 1994 Case Classic Elephant
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