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This one came yesterday which surprised me as did the delivery time. Our mail usually comes in the afternoon, sometimes around 1400. This one arrived @ around 1100. 
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What a fine family you have I-man!Ivoryman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:30 pm Great looking bone stag dlr, congrats and merry Christmas. Great gift and thought.
Got a few myself today and am revelling in the sweet glow of cold, hard, steel and bone. Beauties and feel very thankful for those who get stuff like this to make the season merry for dad. Hope you all got some in your stockings too. Love a new knife and these two, the 14 and 15. Been after a Muscadine and a Tom's Choice for a while. Love the hammered pins and distressed look. Dreams sometimes come true. The flag knife isn't really my style, but won't tell the father-in-law what I think about that. I will tell him the $50 he sent with it was the best cash gift of the season and one I always love seeing in the box. All the best to all of you and hope you're having a great one.![]()
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That's a fine pack of knives you got Ken, congrats!
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Great knife Jerry!jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:55 pm This one came yesterday which surprised me as did the delivery time. Our mail usually comes in the afternoon, sometimes around 1400. This one arrived @ around 1100.![]()
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Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:15 amWhat a fine family you have I-man!Ivoryman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:30 pm Great looking bone stag dlr, congrats and merry Christmas. Great gift and thought.
Got a few myself today and am revelling in the sweet glow of cold, hard, steel and bone. Beauties and feel very thankful for those who get stuff like this to make the season merry for dad. Hope you all got some in your stockings too. Love a new knife and these two, the 14 and 15. Been after a Muscadine and a Tom's Choice for a while. Love the hammered pins and distressed look. Dreams sometimes come true. The flag knife isn't really my style, but won't tell the father-in-law what I think about that. I will tell him the $50 he sent with it was the best cash gift of the season and one I always love seeing in the box. All the best to all of you and hope you're having a great one.![]()
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It would appear that some thought was put into which knives they would give you, which is so much better than just some knife that was chosen cuz it was flashy(see flag knife! LOL!)! Even though it seems your FIL really had no idea of which knife to get for you, I think the $50. cash is his way of saying exactly that, and wanted to compensate you with the cash. The best part is though, all parties were thinking of pleasing Dad when they made their choices! Even the flag knife will fill a spot in your display, but the other 2 I'm sure will be carried and used! You know I like the spear-point with the cross-cut covers, and the white bone looks great as well, just would like to see it without a clip-point. Would you please explain what a "Muscadine" is? Also, is "Tom's Choice" the actual name of that style and does the T/C bolster stamp reflect that? Thx, and Happy Holidays to you and yours bud!
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Thanks Marco, they are great, no complaints at all. My wife would never know what kind of knives I was looking for so she tells me to tell her what I would like or find one myself and she gets it and wraps it, so it's not really a surprise. Fine with me. She gets what she wants, which is to know what to get me and not buy something I don't want, and I get what I want as well. Win/win. As for the Father in law, well he picks what he think's is good to him and I get it so it's okay if it misses the mark. But he gets an A for effort and I still use the knives for gifts for teens or kids who don't know one knife from another, or are into tacticool knives like this one. But yes, they all want to get me a knife since I"m somewhat into them. But of course most in the family don't get my taste or preferances. I hear you, but I can't choose the blade choice Charlie Compagna puts on his SFOs. But he did the "Muscadine" too and I love that blade. Also I have been told a Muscadine is a grape, maybe the color supposedly of the saw cut scales you and I both like. As for the Tom's Choice, well I assume that's what the TC means since it's not only on the bolster but right in the middle of the printed out "Tom's Choice" in the ribbon blade etch. I assume that's because Charlie C., in his quest to bring traditional blade profiles and patterns, that this might be something a Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn would have carried. Meaning a Barlow from way back, not necessarily as pretty as the modern day white bone. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I think it is. Thanks for the comments and hope this answers some of your questions.
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Hey bud! When I wrote my post I was struggling to find the right words I wanted and I hope I didn't offend you or anyone in your family, I was simply trying to say in a funny way you have a beautiful loving family who really cares for you, and I wasn't being critical of anyone. Tried to inject some humor I guess, albeit not too successful. Same for my comments regarding blade grind, I realize you don't get a choice on a SFO, although, at the time I wasn't aware it was a SFO, I just like to state my blade preference whenever the opportunity presents itself. I'm sure you understood my intent! I really dig the Muscadine connection to grapes, I recall seeing many times grapes in the store with that exact color. And your explanation of the Tom's Choice seems totally logical to me, in fact, whenever I see or hear the name "Tom" associated with a knife the first thing that crosses my mind is Tom Sawyer. When I enlarged your picture I failed to read the blade etch on your T/C, otherwise I likely wouldn't have had to ask what the T/C stamp denotes. Gotta slow down and read more carefully. Anyhow, I sure like your new knives and thanks for your detailed answers to my questions, I get it now! Happy and safe Holidays to you and your loving family my friend!Ivoryman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:25 amMadmarco wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:15 amWhat a fine family you have I-man!Ivoryman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 9:30 pm Great looking bone stag dlr, congrats and merry Christmas. Great gift and thought.
Got a few myself today and am revelling in the sweet glow of cold, hard, steel and bone. Beauties and feel very thankful for those who get stuff like this to make the season merry for dad. Hope you all got some in your stockings too. Love a new knife and these two, the 14 and 15. Been after a Muscadine and a Tom's Choice for a while. Love the hammered pins and distressed look. Dreams sometimes come true. The flag knife isn't really my style, but won't tell the father-in-law what I think about that. I will tell him the $50 he sent with it was the best cash gift of the season and one I always love seeing in the box. All the best to all of you and hope you're having a great one.![]()
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It would appear that some thought was put into which knives they would give you, which is so much better than just some knife that was chosen cuz it was flashy(see flag knife! LOL!)! Even though it seems your FIL really had no idea of which knife to get for you, I think the $50. cash is his way of saying exactly that, and wanted to compensate you with the cash. The best part is though, all parties were thinking of pleasing Dad when they made their choices! Even the flag knife will fill a spot in your display, but the other 2 I'm sure will be carried and used! You know I like the spear-point with the cross-cut covers, and the white bone looks great as well, just would like to see it without a clip-point. Would you please explain what a "Muscadine" is? Also, is "Tom's Choice" the actual name of that style and does the T/C bolster stamp reflect that? Thx, and Happy Holidays to you and yours bud!
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Thanks Marco, they are great, no complaints at all. My wife would never know what kind of knives I was looking for so she tells me to tell her what I would like or find one myself and she gets it and wraps it, so it's not really a surprise. Fine with me. She gets what she wants, which is to know what to get me and not buy something I don't want, and I get what I want as well. Win/win. As for the Father in law, well he picks what he think's is good to him and I get it so it's okay if it misses the mark. But he gets an A for effort and I still use the knives for gifts for teens or kids who don't know one knife from another, or are into tacticool knives like this one. But yes, they all want to get me a knife since I"m somewhat into them. But of course most in the family don't get my taste or preferances. I hear you, but I can't choose the blade choice Charlie Compagna puts on his SFOs. But he did the "Muscadine" too and I love that blade. Also I have been told a Muscadine is a grape, maybe the color supposedly of the saw cut scales you and I both like. As for the Tom's Choice, well I assume that's what the TC means since it's not only on the bolster but right in the middle of the printed out "Tom's Choice" in the ribbon blade etch. I assume that's because Charlie C., in his quest to bring traditional blade profiles and patterns, that this might be something a Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn would have carried. Meaning a Barlow from way back, not necessarily as pretty as the modern day white bone. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I think it is. Thanks for the comments and hope this answers some of your questions.
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Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:03 pmIvoryman wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 5:25 amHey bud! When I wrote my post I was struggling to find the right words I wanted and I hope I didn't offend you or anyone in your family, I was simply trying to say in a funny way you have a beautiful loving family who really cares for you, and I wasn't being critical of anyone. Tried to inject some humor I guess, albeit not too successful. Same for my comments regarding blade grind, I realize you don't get a choice on a SFO, although, at the time I wasn't aware it was a SFO, I just like to state my blade preference whenever the opportunity presents itself. I'm sure you understood my intent! I really dig the Muscadine connection to grapes, I recall seeing many times grapes in the store with that exact color. And your explanation of the Tom's Choice seems totally logical to me, in fact, whenever I see or hear the name "Tom" associated with a knife the first thing that crosses my mind is Tom Sawyer. When I enlarged your picture I failed to read the blade etch on your T/C, otherwise I likely wouldn't have had to ask what the T/C stamp denotes. Gotta slow down and read more carefully. Anyhow, I sure like your new knives and thanks for your detailed answers to my questions, I get it now! Happy and safe Holidays to you and your loving family my friend!Madmarco wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 1:15 am
What a fine family you have I-man!It would appear that some thought was put into which knives they would give you, which is so much better than just some knife that was chosen cuz it was flashy(see flag knife! LOL!)! Even though it seems your FIL really had no idea of which knife to get for you, I think the $50. cash is his way of saying exactly that, and wanted to compensate you with the cash. The best part is though, all parties were thinking of pleasing Dad when they made their choices! Even the flag knife will fill a spot in your display, but the other 2 I'm sure will be carried and used! You know I like the spear-point with the cross-cut covers, and the white bone looks great as well, just would like to see it without a clip-point. Would you please explain what a "Muscadine" is? Also, is "Tom's Choice" the actual name of that style and does the T/C bolster stamp reflect that? Thx, and Happy Holidays to you and yours bud!
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Absolutely no problem, I don't mind honest questions and am glad to answer. Yours always seem polite and decent. Your words are fine with me and I took no offence or bad intent from the question or wording. I don't always get the humor but appreciate the attempt. And it's never a bother to me to discuss things like this when I post pics. You're kind to be concerned about my end of it and I really appreciate it and welcome sincere comments. Thanks for the compliments and interest and all the best to you and yours this season. Weather permitting I will be visiting Canada this upcoming week, Vancouver B.C. that is, but I will think of you in the great white north while I"m there. All the best, Merry Christmas and happy new year coming and have a great day. Thanks again.
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That's great buddy, I knew you'd understand where I was coming from. If you make it to B.C. be sure to bring warm clothing cuz they have been bombarded lately with snow and wind and rain, and they aren't usually prepared for such weather. Thanks for your warm holiday wishes and I hope the same for you! Be safe on your trip! 
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10-4 good buddy, will do, thanks for the wishes and it's only a hundred miles or so, we should be good. Thanks again and all the best to ya.Madmarco wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:58 am That's great buddy, I knew you'd understand where I was coming from. If you make it to B.C. be sure to bring warm clothing cuz they have been bombarded lately with snow and wind and rain, and they aren't usually prepared for such weather. Thanks for your warm holiday wishes and I hope the same for you! Be safe on you trip!![]()
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Hey mate, best of luck on your trip! You're in pretty much the same weather zone, so you should be well accustomed to BC in the winter. Out here, we're pretty much the tundra Russia, so I wouldn't recommend coming out here this week...Ivoryman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:02 am10-4 good buddy, will do, thanks for the wishes and it's only a hundred miles or so, we should be good. Thanks again and all the best to ya.Madmarco wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:58 am That's great buddy, I knew you'd understand where I was coming from. If you make it to B.C. be sure to bring warm clothing cuz they have been bombarded lately with snow and wind and rain, and they aren't usually prepared for such weather. Thanks for your warm holiday wishes and I hope the same for you! Be safe on you trip!![]()
Vancover would be glorious this time of year! Perfect time to take a trip out there, not to hot, not to cold; just right.
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Got this SW 899 off Ebay, just came today. The punch seems kind of blunt to me. but it's the first I've ever seen so....
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That's right! You're in Seattle just a hop-skip-and-a-jump from Vancouver! For some reason I keep thinking you're located in the east somewhere.Ivoryman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 2:02 am10-4 good buddy, will do, thanks for the wishes and it's only a hundred miles or so, we should be good. Thanks again and all the best to ya.Madmarco wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 1:58 am That's great buddy, I knew you'd understand where I was coming from. If you make it to B.C. be sure to bring warm clothing cuz they have been bombarded lately with snow and wind and rain, and they aren't usually prepared for such weather. Thanks for your warm holiday wishes and I hope the same for you! Be safe on you trip!![]()
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Very cool Nick!CluelessNick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:36 pm Got this SW 899 off Ebay, just came today. The punch seems kind of blunt to me. but it's the first I've ever seen so....
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Well, I got a new watch today. Oh yes, I got a new knife too!
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."
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NICE knife David!dlr110 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 pm Well, I got a new watch today. Oh yes, I got a new knife too!
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."
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Thank you Sir. Love the knife, but the watch is telling me things I don't really want to know like, my BP is too high. It even has a feature that tells me to get off my butt and move around.Madmarco wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:25 amNICE knife David!dlr110 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 pm Well, I got a new watch today. Oh yes, I got a new knife too!
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."And built with such quality materials, leather, powder steel, Titanium, and Ironwood! I see it has a screw pivot, and I'm all-in for those! I have no information about the company, other than they make a nice knife! The watch ain't too shabby either! Congrats on a great find!
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I hear ya my friend! I know exactly how unhealthy I am and certainly don't need some watch reminding me about it all day! LOL!dlr110 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 7:32 pmThank you Sir. Love the knife, but the watch is telling me things I don't really want to know like, my BP is too high. It even has a feature that tells me to get off my butt and move around.Madmarco wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:25 amNICE knife David!dlr110 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 pm Well, I got a new watch today. Oh yes, I got a new knife too!
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."And built with such quality materials, leather, powder steel, Titanium, and Ironwood! I see it has a screw pivot, and I'm all-in for those! I have no information about the company, other than they make a nice knife! The watch ain't too shabby either! Congrats on a great find!
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Read an article yesterday that those watches might be doing more harm than good by inducing anxiety.
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That wouldn't surprise me in the least Garry! 
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Got this small stockman (3 1/2" closed) in the mail today. I knew it was not a real WESTERN but it has a Western logo on the clip blade, no other markings. Bolster, liners, springs, blades, all appear to be some sort of steel, maybe SS.
What company owns the Western name? I would almost bet the farm that it was made in China.
All that said, it is pretty well made, blades close with rubbing, good snap, would make a good Sunday knife. Treefarmer
What company owns the Western name? I would almost bet the farm that it was made in China.
All that said, it is pretty well made, blades close with rubbing, good snap, would make a good Sunday knife. Treefarmer
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Nothing relieves anxiety like a new knife. 
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Has beautiful handles Nick!CluelessNick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 27, 2021 11:36 pm Got this SW 899 off Ebay, just came today. The punch seems kind of blunt to me. but it's the first I've ever seen so....
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Never heard of Trivisa but it looks like a nice knife.dlr110 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 28, 2021 11:49 pm Well, I got a new watch today. Oh yes, I got a new knife too!
The watch is a fitness watch and will monitor my BP, Heart Rate, Oxygen level and some other stuff I haven't figured out yet.
The knife is a TRIVISA. I don't know anything about the company yet so if you know something or can point me in the right
direction I would appreciate it. Here is the Amazon description: "TRIVISA Pocket Traditional Knife, Handmade Folding Knives with Leather Sheath, 3in Single Bohler M390 Powder Steel Blade, TC4 Titanium & Desert Ironwood Handle with Gift Case."
Nice looking watch too!
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Looks good Philip.treefarmer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:17 am Got this small stockman (3 1/2" closed) in the mail today. I knew it was not a real WESTERN but it has a Western logo on the clip blade, no other markings. Bolster, liners, springs, blades, all appear to be some sort of steel, maybe SS.![]()
What company owns the Western name? I would almost bet the farm that it was made in China.![]()
All that said, it is pretty well made, blades close with rubbing, good snap, would make a good Sunday knife.
Treefarmer
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Arrived yesterday. Doesn't make me jump up and down and giggle. It's a Half-Hawk.
Not sorry I bought it. It's okay.
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This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012