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It's In The Mail
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Nice! I like the slightly larger frame penknives. They 're more reasonable as an EDC as opposed to the super-small 2 1/2-2 3/4ones. I don't mind the smaller ones, but it's just the those around 3.5" or so that are better suited as a main pocketknife, as opposed to a shirt or watch pocket backup.TPK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:50 pm I fished out this NOS / C. F. Kayser Solingen with bone handles & nickelsilver bolsters today. It has never been used, carried or sharpend. Blade lenghts are 7,4cm/4,2cm, & total length closed is 9,0cm. I have never ran across this brand before. Looking forward to checking it out.![]()
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And while I find myself measuring using the mm side of my ruler for fine stuff, I had to use the conversion factor on my trusty Texas Instruments TI-36X Pro to figure out 9 cm equaled about 3.5".
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Thanks Cody. I like all sizes of pen knives but I'll agree with you, the larger ones are handier IMO.cody6268 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:20 pmNice! I like the slightly larger frame penknives. They 're more reasonable as an EDC as opposed to the super-small 2 1/2-2 3/4ones. I don't mind the smaller ones, but it's just the those around 3.5" or so that are better suited as a main pocketknife, as opposed to a shirt or watch pocket backup.TPK wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:50 pm I fished out this NOS / C. F. Kayser Solingen with bone handles & nickelsilver bolsters today. It has never been used, carried or sharpend. Blade lenghts are 7,4cm/4,2cm, & total length closed is 9,0cm. I have never ran across this brand before. Looking forward to checking it out.![]()
Thanks for looking friends!![]()
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And while I find myself measuring using the mm side of my ruler for fine stuff, I had to use the conversion factor on my trusty Texas Instruments TI-36X Pro to figure out 9 cm equaled about 3.5".
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ASP Advocate Knife. Similar to Victorinox's Rambler model, but it adds a locking, serrated blade. That has been the sole reason for my interest in it.
ASP mostly is known for handcuffs and batons, and mostly sells to law enforcement. They have a small lineup of knives, and most are SAK clones with handcuff keys. Those are what most knife dealers on the web have. However, the Advocate is only sold through ASP. The going price on eBay for the others is about $34 plus shipping. ASP's price was $21, plus $8 shipping. Used to be $14-20 for shipping 5-6 years ago.
My problem is that usually, the Chinese Swiss Army Knife clones have bad scissors. I'm hoping it's not the case with this model, given ASP's $40 MSRP.
ASP mostly is known for handcuffs and batons, and mostly sells to law enforcement. They have a small lineup of knives, and most are SAK clones with handcuff keys. Those are what most knife dealers on the web have. However, the Advocate is only sold through ASP. The going price on eBay for the others is about $34 plus shipping. ASP's price was $21, plus $8 shipping. Used to be $14-20 for shipping 5-6 years ago.
My problem is that usually, the Chinese Swiss Army Knife clones have bad scissors. I'm hoping it's not the case with this model, given ASP's $40 MSRP.
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Should be here by the weekend. Currently in SANTA CLARITA CA. I have to be away on Saturday for my cousin's wedding. I hope the porch pirates don't get it. 
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This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:19 pm Should be here by the weekend. Currently in SANTA CLARITA CA. I have to be away on Saturday for my cousin's wedding. I hope the porch pirates don't get it.![]()
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Found the Klein Tools Japan 44002 on sale for ten bucks. It's the same as the hawkbill I recently purchased size-wise, but features a bit more utilitarian drop point blade.
I was skeptical about the price at first, given MSRP is $30. However, it checked out. It was a Prime item, meaning sold through a third-party seller, but shipped by Amazon. Seller was based in GA, and had been selling for a long time with great feedback; so I took a crapshoot. And, the Chinese haven't faked them.
Bought three.
I was skeptical about the price at first, given MSRP is $30. However, it checked out. It was a Prime item, meaning sold through a third-party seller, but shipped by Amazon. Seller was based in GA, and had been selling for a long time with great feedback; so I took a crapshoot. And, the Chinese haven't faked them.
Bought three.
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Nice finds Cody & Jerry!
Picked up a used Schrade LB1 for my EDC pile & a RR Muskrat that has been on my watch list for about a year now.

Picked up a used Schrade LB1 for my EDC pile & a RR Muskrat that has been on my watch list for about a year now.
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The Schrade is a tiny little thing. It should be able to sneak in under even the most Draconian of blade length limits. I like it!
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Thanks Dan!
Yes it should be a legal carry anywhere IMO.
Plus +++++ It has a bail too!
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Nice score!
Tiny but it works for most light-duty EDC tasks. I don't have an LB-1, but I do have Camillus and Bear versions that are about the same size, and they cut surprisingly above their size. Usually though, when weight is concerned, I usually go up about a half-inch or so and move to the 2 1/2" to 3" lockbacks with nylon plastic handles.
The Gerber Ultralight LST (used to be known as the Micro LST from the 1980s until recently)is a favorite of mine in that regard. Less than half the price of a Spyderco Ladybug, and in my opinion, it has better action (not to mention, a half-stop to keep the blade from slamming on your fingers). MSRP is $15, I've seen them as low as $10. It is "cheap enough to lose"; as in if I lose it, it isn't expensive to replace, and it's not an old, collectible knife.
It's 2.65" closed, just slightly larger than 2.5"
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As always Cody, thanks for your informative post!cody6268 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 2:35 pmNice score!
Tiny but it works for most light-duty EDC tasks. I don't have an LB-1, but I do have Camillus and Bear versions that are about the same size, and they cut surprisingly above their size. Usually though, when weight is concerned, I usually go up about a half-inch or so and move to the 2 1/2" to 3" lockbacks with nylon plastic handles.
The Gerber Ultralight LST (used to be known as the Micro LST from the 1980s until recently)is a favorite of mine in that regard. Less than half the price of a Spyderco Ladybug, and in my opinion, it has better action (not to mention, a half-stop to keep the blade from slamming on your fingers). MSRP is $15, I've seen them as low as $10. It is "cheap enough to lose"; as in if I lose it, it isn't expensive to replace, and it's not an old, collectible knife.
It's 2.65" closed, just slightly larger than 2.5"
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Another forum I'm on has been doing a "SAK Alike Challenge" with knives that are copies, or very similar to Victorinox and Wenger Swiss Army Knives. I've noticed most of mine have pretty bad scissors, so I'm hoping this one will do well. When it comes to knives that are like SAKs, and do match their quality, it's either us or the Germans that seem to do best.
It's a USA-made Zippo. Camillus and Case made Zippo knives, but this one confuses me. Neither have had a pattern like this. Scissors remind me of those in a Schrade I have. Knowing that Schrade, these scissors SHOULD be as good as the Victorinox ones.
It's a USA-made Zippo. Camillus and Case made Zippo knives, but this one confuses me. Neither have had a pattern like this. Scissors remind me of those in a Schrade I have. Knowing that Schrade, these scissors SHOULD be as good as the Victorinox ones.
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We very much think alike in that regard.
That should be an interesting challenge. Regarding your earlier post on lockbacks, it sounds like a Schrade SP2 could be right up your alley.
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Thanks!
I actually have one of those, as well as the 3OT. The 3OT is decent, but the SP2 is a little rough, and I suspect may have been a second (there is a very deep, engraved dot in the back side of the blade). I don't use them as much as the Gerber, as like I said before, the Gerber is still being made, and affordable.
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Decided I need to buy more Victorinox Classic Limited Editions. They go up in value very well over here.
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.
Problem would be parting with it. Guess I need two of them. One to keep & one to sell. 
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.
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Not a knife but I've been wanting one of these for quite a while. Ordered it this morning.
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--T.J. Murphy 2012
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Jerry D.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
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jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:22 pm Not a knife but I've been wanting one of these for quite a while. Ordered it this morning.
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TPK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:29 pm Decided I need to buy more Victorinox Classic Limited Editions. They go up in value very well over here.![]()
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.Problem would be parting with it. Guess I need two of them. One to keep & one to sell.
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Sometimes I Sit and Think
.... Other times I just Sit
I May Grow Older, But I refuse to Grow Up!!
I'll sharpen it for you, but I don't give out band-aids!!
Smitty
I May Grow Older, But I refuse to Grow Up!!
I'll sharpen it for you, but I don't give out band-aids!!
Smitty
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TPK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:29 pm Decided I need to buy more Victorinox Classic Limited Editions. They go up in value very well over here.![]()
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.Problem would be parting with it. Guess I need two of them. One to keep & one to sell.
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That's cool, Tom. Thanks for the heads up.
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Thanks Smitty! Appreciate your comments Buddy!Papa Bones wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:54 pmTPK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:29 pm Decided I need to buy more Victorinox Classic Limited Editions. They go up in value very well over here.![]()
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.Problem would be parting with it. Guess I need two of them. One to keep & one to sell.
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Cool looking SAKs Tom. Literally
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No Problem!1967redrider wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:06 amThat's cool, Tom. Thanks for the heads up.TPK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:29 pm Decided I need to buy more Victorinox Classic Limited Editions. They go up in value very well over here.![]()
Bough this one. I'm not much for winter or skiing but I do like the design of this one. And I'm pretty sure that it will be sought after in the near future.Problem would be parting with it. Guess I need two of them. One to keep & one to sell.
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This design will go up in value like a rocket over here I'm sure!
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Why? Do I really need a reason? For some unknown reason, it spoke to me. I think it was the blade profile talking, plus it wasn't much money. Soooo now one is coming to live with me. I may have a change of heart once I get it in hand but for now it appeased a mild case of the wanna's.
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The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
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Jerry there is nothing wrong with the wanna's.
I ordered this Old Timer 19OT just because I wanna replace the one I gave away.
I ordered this Old Timer 19OT just because I wanna replace the one I gave away.
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Ha! The "wanna's" are what put us all here!
Two cool knives gentlemen..