The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
I've been hoping its the 88 pattern Large Congress. I was given a 1976 6488 by my Granddad, but the blades are a little too worn down. Plus, it's an original, and thus rare. From what I've seen, this is one of the more valuable Case patterns. Hopefully, one in CV.
And, I really need to get a Barlow. Haven't yet, and I planned to at the start of the year.
I would like to see a new run of the 6380 whittler. I do not know if it is in the vault or not, but I have wondered for years why Case does not still produce the 6380. I think they would sell at least as well as the Seahorse.
Dinadan wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:50 pm
I would like to see a new run of the 6380 whittler. I do not know if it is in the vault or not, but I have wondered for years why Case does not still produce the 6380. I think they would sell at least as well as the Seahorse.
Yep, especially since the seahorse is hands down one of the ugliest knives I’ve ever beheld. Just my opinion mind you.
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You would think that you could easily Google: Case Knife Vault Schedule and find a list of all the knives that have been placed in the vault and which ones have come out of the vault, but I have been searching for half an hour and can’t find a single source for this information, not even on the Case website. Anyone have a list of all the knives that went in and came out and what year it happened?
Sharpnshinyknives wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:54 pm
You would think that you could easily Google: Case Knife Vault Schedule and find a list of all the knives that have been placed in the vault and which ones have come out of the vault, but I have been searching for half an hour and can’t find a single source for this information, not even on the Case website. Anyone have a list of all the knives that went in and came out and what year it happened?
Maybe Ken (Mumbleypeg) can get that info over on the CCC Forum as he is a member there..
John
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Of all the paths you take in life,
Make sure some of them are Dirt!!!
TPK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:18 pm
Ok, here we go again, Sorry guys, could someone tell me how this "Case Knife Vault" thing works? I'm with stupid.
Thanks,
Tom
I’m a CCC member also but I haven’t seen anything there either.
Tom, Case selects patterns to go out of production for at least 3 years and then releases them after that time. The idea is to make them more collectible. This started in 2008 or 2007 sometime. This year the Barlow and Doctors knife were released. But they go back into the vault after this one year.
Hope that helps.
TPK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:18 pm
Ok, here we go again, Sorry guys, could someone tell me how this "Case Knife Vault" thing works? I'm with stupid.
Thanks,
Tom
I’m a CCC member also but I haven’t seen anything there either.
Tom, Case selects patterns to go out of production for at least 3 years and then releases them after that time. The idea is to make them more collectible. This started in 2008 or 2007 sometime. This year the Barlow and Doctors knife were released. But they go back into the vault after this one year.
Hope that helps.
Thanks Mark, I'll Do some more research on the topic, sounds interesting.
TOM - KGFG - (Knife-Guy-From-Germany)
I believe..., every knife is a soul, looking for a soulmate.
TPK wrote: ↑Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:18 pm
Ok, here we go again, Sorry guys, could someone tell me how this "Case Knife Vault" thing works? I'm with stupid.
Thanks,
Tom
Tom - here is an old press release from the beginning of the Vault program in 2007.
Bradford, PA (June 29, 2007) RussLock®, CopperLock®, Tiny Trapper®, XX-Changer®, Sod Buster® and Cheetah®. These are the names of some of the most popular knife patterns in existence. They're all produced by W.R. Case and Sons Cutlery Company, one of America's most treasured names in collectables. Now the company is launching a new Case XX Vault program, aimed at preserving several unique patterns for future years of enjoyable Case knife collecting.
The new Case XX Vault program, which takes effect January 1, 2008, calls for four popular Case patterns and all related tool works to be locked away inside the Case XX Vault for a period of at least three years before being reintroduced to the public.
The Case Tuxedo, Doctor's Knife, Cheetah®, and 056 Lockback will be the first patterns to enter the Case XX Vault. Production of component parts for these patterns will cease at the close of business on December 31, 2007.
The Case Cheetah® was selected as the Collector's Choice of the group. 250 of them will be made as a final production run, fitted with a unique shield indicating their vault entry date, and stored away for safekeeping. Another 250 piece order will be made upon reintroduction in 2011, fitted with a new shield indicating the vault exit date. The resulting two-piece sets will be offered to the public in commemoration of the pattern's return to market.
New series of patterns will be retired to the Case XX Vault periodically.
Case officials say the new program will create benefits for all types of Case enthusiasts. Casual Case hobbyists will have some extra time to find missing knives that may have eluded them in the past. Market-minded collectors may see their existing collections appreciate in value due to the tightened supply of selected patterns. Finally, Case's continuous engineering and production improvements should enhance overall consumer appeal for reintroduced patterns.
In the good old days, meaning about a year and a half ago, customers could view Case College without joining the Case Collectors' Club. It had a table of handle pattern numbers that gave their length, the blades they were most commonly assembled with (stockman, whittler etc.) and the status of the tooling, discontinued, in the vault or currently cataloged. There were a lot of patterns in the vault. Combined with the research section here we had good info. I hope Case chooses to let the general public view Case College again. It makes no sense for them to not help customers select their products.
Bradford, PA (June 29, 2007) RussLock®, CopperLock®, Tiny Trapper®, XX-Changer®, Sod Buster® and Cheetah®. These are the names of some of the most popular knife patterns in existence. They're all produced by W.R. Case and Sons Cutlery Company, one of America's most treasured names in collectables. Now the company is launching a new Case XX Vault program, aimed at preserving several unique patterns for future years of enjoyable Case knife collecting.
The new Case XX Vault program, which takes effect January 1, 2008, calls for four popular Case patterns and all related tool works to be locked away inside the Case XX Vault for a period of at least three years before being reintroduced to the public.
The Case Tuxedo, Doctor's Knife, Cheetah®, and 056 Lockback will be the first patterns to enter the Case XX Vault. Production of component parts for these patterns will cease at the close of business on December 31, 2007.
The Case Cheetah® was selected as the Collector's Choice of the group. 250 of them will be made as a final production run, fitted with a unique shield indicating their vault entry date, and stored away for safekeeping. Another 250 piece order will be made upon reintroduction in 2011, fitted with a new shield indicating the vault exit date. The resulting two-piece sets will be offered to the public in commemoration of the pattern's return to market.
New series of patterns will be retired to the Case XX Vault periodically.
Case officials say the new program will create benefits for all types of Case enthusiasts. Casual Case hobbyists will have some extra time to find missing knives that may have eluded them in the past. Market-minded collectors may see their existing collections appreciate in value due to the tightened supply of selected patterns. Finally, Case's continuous engineering and production improvements should enhance overall consumer appeal for reintroduced patterns.
What a line of BS. Sure makes it look like Case is making for the collector market and not for the user market.
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Jerry D.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
Yeah, I gettcha John. And we're the suckers that keep them churning out the same knife with different handles. I don't understand why I do it, much less why you or anyone else does it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go check out eBay for 72's and see if Shepherd Hills has any new Mini-Trappers in stock.
Forged on the anvil of discipline.
The Few. The Proud.
Jerry D.
This country has become more about sub-groups than about it's unity as a nation.
"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:20 pm
Yeah, I gettcha John. And we're the suckers that keep them churning out the same knife with different handles. I don't understand why I do it, much less why you or anyone else does it.
Exactly..
John
Not all who wander are lost!!
Of all the paths you take in life,
Make sure some of them are Dirt!!!
Modern Slip Joints wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:09 pm
In the good old days, meaning about a year and a half ago, customers could view Case College without joining the Case Collectors' Club. It had a table of handle pattern numbers that gave their length, most blade assembly, and the status of the tooling, discontinued, in the vault or currently cataloged. There were a lot of patterns in the vault. Combined with the research section here we had good info. I hope Case well let the general public view Case College again. It makes no sense for them to help customers select their products.
I agree. I always enjoyed Case College. I wish they would bring it back again without having to join another group.
jerryd6818 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:20 pm
Yeah, I gettcha John. And we're the suckers that keep them churning out the same knife with different handles. I don't understand why I do it, much less why you or anyone else does it.
Now if you'll excuse me, I gotta go check out eBay for 72's and see if Shepherd Hills has any new Mini-Trappers in stock.
Rather that the same pattern and blades with only different side covers I focus on different handle shapes and sizes and differed blades in those handles. Ideally no two would have the same bone jigging and dying but that is not important. As a side benefit my focus more often forces me out into the pre-owned market where a patient shopper can find better prices.
However, if I was a serious Mini-T collector I'd have to have one of the Mini-Ts with basket weave jigging that are in the SMKW that arrived a day or two ago. I'd prefer the color matched a natural wicker basket and price was lower but they weren't custom made for me.
I agree that Case's explanation of their vault program is BS. They fill distributor orders that result from market demand. Their manufacturing process is not cost effective with tiny production runs so they flood the market with 3 3/8" Barlows then put that tooling back into storage for a few years. They'll pull the tooling out agin if and when they accumulate enough requests or back orders from distributors.
With Queen gone I wonder what manufacturer Case will have make their tiny production runs?