A Little History Lesson

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PA Knives
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A Little History Lesson

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Hi Gang!


Yes I am back, if only for a few minutes. I just wanted to tease some of you with my latest research. Nov 1847 Rodgers and Another vs. Nowill and Another.

The action taken in the court of Common Pleas of New York is a prime example the practice of altering tang stamps so that the consumer thinks he is getting a top brand at a great price. This 1847 folks, it happened back then just like it does today. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is a brief quote from the court records, "pocket knives witha certain stamp or mark, consisting, to wit, of the figures of a crown, placed between the capital letters V. and R., with the words "J. Rodgers & Sons, " in letters thereunder, in manner following, that is to say [here a fac-simile of the mark was set out.] The declaration than averred that the said pocket knives were so marked by the plaintiffs as aforesaid, in order to denote that they were articles of cutlery prepared, manufactured and made by the plaintiffs, and to distinguish them from articles of cutlery of the same description, manufactured or made by other persons. Held in very high estimation by dealders in cutlery, on acocount of thier good quality.



Counterfiet plain and simple. I recall a Kane Cutlery a few weeks ago on ebay that was clearly a new knife. Sold for over $250 Should have sold for $60 or $70 at most. I didn't say anything, becuase I have learned that most won't listen anyways.

My point is that it isn't anything new and now I have proof of that.

Hope you enjoyed my short history lesson. More to come I am sure.
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YES!!!!! Welcome Back!!!!!!!!!!
We missed Ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cry: :cry: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Utopia!! A chicken in every pot!! And a Barlow in every pocket!!!


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Thanks for the lesson and ::welcome:: back!! ::tu::
johnnierotten

So far,So good...So What!!
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Thanks for the info PA, and thanks for checking in, it's great to see you're back! ::tu:: ::tu::

Eric
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Welcome back David!
We missed your history lessons.
It sounds like there may be a new book in the works??? We can only hope.

Take care,
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good to have ya back on, dave. kinda had me worried ya might
have "runoft" and left your ole knifer buddys to fend for
themselves!
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I love this site and the knowledge I have gleaned just perusing previous post. Please keep them coming!!!
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