About the 80 pattern

[just bob]

A friend of mine came over with 2, 10 dot 1970 Case 6380 patterns. Both are used but very decent. Hard to tell from the pics that they are both 10 dot, but clearly one has large letters and the other has smaller letters. He said his book showed these varieties. My book does not and I also looked in Steve's book and he doesn't mention the varieties either. My book does show in the 80 pattern with the XX stamp and red bone that they were made 1940- 1955 and regular bone was made 1955 - 1965. Anyone have additional information on the subject. Kind of odd this is only on the 80 pattern.

[treefarmer]

just bob,
Additionally, the nail nicks on the small clips appear to be not the same.
Maybe Mr. Pfeiffer will shed some light on the differences in the stamps.
Treefarmer

[knifeaholic]

Case varied the tang stamp dies that they used. Sometimes a stamp meant for a larger pattern was used on a smaller pattern. When a pattern is highly sought after, some collectors will place different values on the large vs small tang stamps. Sometimes the fact that different stamps were used on the same pattern just goes unnoticed.

Both knives are the real deal. The person who could shed light on the relative rarity of the large vs small stamps would be Mr. Spencer, the expert on Case 1970 10 dot knives. I don't recall what name he goes by here on the forums but he is a member.

[just bob]

Any chance at all that one knife was made in house and the other outsourced? On the 640045 pattern there is also a difference in the size of the lettering on the tang stamps. I assume that was due to outsourcing and who actually made the knife?

[knifeaholic]

Any chance at all that one knife was made in house and the other outsourced? On the 640045 pattern there is also a difference in the size of the lettering on the tang stamps. I assume that was due to outsourcing and who actually made the knife?

No; I'm certain that Case made all of the 80 patterns in house. There are a number of patterns that Case made where you will see different size tang stamps on the same pattern.

[Winchester M21]

I am the lucky guy that had the opportunity to purchase these two knives!!
Thinking about having them cleaned up. Good idea or leave as is????

[Colonel26]

Oil the blades and wipe em down. Take a #2 pencil to any active rust. Do nothing else. Just mho. I prefer no to ruin good old knives.

[stockman]

Nice older Case knives. I would clean with some oil, clean out the blade well with some Q-Tips. Mineral oil on the bone. Nothing harsh. You can't un-clean them.

Harold

[Phin Spencer]

Hi all; As to the '80 pattern I have both of what you have. There seems to be plenty of room for
the large stamp on the knife, though the small stamp is more pleasing. The 6380 is one of my favorite
patterns, I need to find a user, as mine are way to good to use as every day carry! As to the large stamp
vs. the small stamp it can be found in quite a few Case patterns, as Steve says. I think it is a matter
of who was stamping the blades on any certain day. The out sourced knives is an other possibility,
as not all had the same sizes stamp. I don't think that there is much difference in price between the
2. Tony Foster values the large stamp @ 475.00 and the small stamp @ 450.00 for mint knives.
Hope this doesn't muddy the water more!
Regards
Phin Spencer

[Winchester M21]

Nice older Case knives. I would clean with some oil, clean out the blade well with some Q-Tips. Mineral oil on the bone. Nothing harsh. You can't un-clean them.

Harold

Thanks! I’ll just keep them as is.