Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
In August last year our very own Ken and Roger released their first Maher & Grosh knives. Both have the nail nick and the long pull. Big knives require busy fingers.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Seems to me supratentorial is right about the fulcrum. The further back the pull, the more difficult to open.
Old Folder's double pulls may include the forward nick for ease of opening because using the long pull is just more difficult on the nail and maybe not there for opening at all and just a fuller.
In any case, a long pull is best used as forward as possible, again for ease of opening, and nobody's nail is as long as a long pull
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Therefore I think long pulls are for a reason other than just opening, whether as a fuller, or any of the other reasons given in other posts.
I'm a right hander but multi-blade knives have some blades with nicks on the other side, so I'm in solidarity with the lefties here.
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Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all. I'm quite the opposite, it's just my irritating manner left over from my teacher days.
Old Folder's double pulls may include the forward nick for ease of opening because using the long pull is just more difficult on the nail and maybe not there for opening at all and just a fuller.
In any case, a long pull is best used as forward as possible, again for ease of opening, and nobody's nail is as long as a long pull
Therefore I think long pulls are for a reason other than just opening, whether as a fuller, or any of the other reasons given in other posts.
I'm a right hander but multi-blade knives have some blades with nicks on the other side, so I'm in solidarity with the lefties here.
Sorry if I sound like a know-it-all. I'm quite the opposite, it's just my irritating manner left over from my teacher days.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
....and THAT'S why the folks who invented the easy open jack were genius!
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
I have not idea as to the reasons for them, however, I really like the double pulls on the old elephant toenails. Also on the new Maher and Grosh knives.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
In reference to your liking "match strike" pulls, this Paxton & Gallagher harness jack has a regular pull on the main blade, and a match strike pull on the awl. Kind of unusual, I wonder what the thinking was on that design?americanedgetech wrote:Ken, That is the first "double pull" knife that I have seen.
I do not understand why a Cutler would do such a thing except for the Maybe that the long pull was a "style" feature in days gone by.
I LOVE long pull blades, and I prefer "match strikes" but there seems to be no conscientious (Did spell check screw me?) on why. Things seem to be the way they are because they are the way they are.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
I can easily see the "matchstrike" pull being used as just that. A matchstrike.
Being that your awl in in the main blade position (front) I also see the utility in that pull. It just makes sense to me.
There has to be a reason for the name.
Being that your awl in in the main blade position (front) I also see the utility in that pull. It just makes sense to me.
There has to be a reason for the name.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Hey my friend that high pull with the incredible colored bone looks familiar. What a great knife.espn77 wrote:Top knife has a low pull. Bottom knife has a high pull.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Yes it is Jerry. You have a great knife.zp4ja wrote:
Hey my friend that high pull with the incredible colored bone looks familiar. What a great knife.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
I thought this old thread may be a good place to ask a question similar to the original post. Why would this Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett cattle knife (made by NY Knife) have three blades, each with a different pull? The master blade has a match strike, the sheepsfoot has a nail nick, and the skinner has a long pull. Maybe the answer is "because it could"?XX Case XX wrote:I'm curious as to what determines if a knife contains a nail knick or a long pull. I'm looking at knives for sale here, and knives on eBay as well as my own, and I cannot find any rhyme or reason as to who gets what. Here's a few examples of both.
Can anyone here shed some light on this?
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Here's a double pull on a small knife, a whittler with what I l believe are ivory handles. This one is only 3 1/8" inches in length.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Ok fellas, how about this?!
My Buck 424 has neither! It’s just got a fairly pronounced flare at the top of the spine. It opens very easily with either hand. Yep, I tried it.
I wonder if the ease of opening has something to do with it having a lock? Anyway, good thing it’s like this because it lives in my little emergency bag in my backpack. If I’m using it, it’s probably because the Big One finally nailed us. Being able to open it easily with either hand might be kinda crucial!
My Buck 424 has neither! It’s just got a fairly pronounced flare at the top of the spine. It opens very easily with either hand. Yep, I tried it.
I wonder if the ease of opening has something to do with it having a lock? Anyway, good thing it’s like this because it lives in my little emergency bag in my backpack. If I’m using it, it’s probably because the Big One finally nailed us. Being able to open it easily with either hand might be kinda crucial!
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Some people refer to that as a "pinch opener".zoogirl wrote:958AB59B-8E76-4E9D-BD67-3BF0722D5257.jpegDF4DEC6B-1C26-40D3-8572-B310772080D9.jpeg02D90656-6309-4506-BEF7-9A064F74392A.jpeg
Ok fellas, how about this?!
My Buck 424 has neither! It’s just got a fairly pronounced flare at the top of the spine. It opens very easily with either hand. Yep, I tried it.
I wonder if the ease of opening has something to do with it having a lock? Anyway, good thing it’s like this because it lives in my little emergency bag in my backpack. If I’m using it, it’s probably because the Big One finally nailed us. Being able to open it easily with either hand might be kinda crucial!
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Thanks for that explanation - never knew thatespn77 wrote:Top knife has a low pull. Bottom knife has a high pull.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
That is one beautiful knife UNK!!Unk wrote:Here's a double pull on a small knife, a whittler with what I l believe are ivory handles. This one is only 3 1/8" inches in length.
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Re: Nail Knick vs. Long Pull
Thanks Woodwalker!
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