CONGRESS

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:33 am

Thanks Sunburst!

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:40 pm

Here is an old levering from around 1900 actually the picture make the knife look worse than it actually is. LT

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:10 pm

Little is said about "Levering" in Goins, LT. Seems like a contract knife. Must be fairly rare; never seen one before. Do you know any more?

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:20 pm

all i found was levering a1 knife co., new york, ny. wholesaler c1890?

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:08 pm

I was afraid you would ask. Well levering was a forerunner of Simmons or at least was involved with it. Levering bought SIMMONS Levine has something on it on his list #407 you can google it however I cannot bring it up since I no longer want to be or am a member of BF . I have always felt ( which is why I bought this knife many years ago that there might ( I do not know at this point ) have been a releationship between Lever and Levering A1. Now it gets more confusing since the reason I wanted to know is is because Napanoch made a lever knife ( similar to a wiltzen patent ) the exact same knife was sold by LEVER. So I was trying to figure out if Nap might have been a supplier for levering and how it all tied together it seems reasonable because early on Pre Walden, Nap supplied Simmons so it being sold in NY and all the other hints seem to point that way but, I have not actually proven it. The real question here is why would anyone in the world give a s... about this historic minutia this should show just how mundane and unimportant my life has become. Oh well it keeps me from worrying about anything important. You have to admit though I have a way of rambling so much about so little that I can make almost anyone sorry they asked. LT

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:31 pm

LT, you do know how to turn a phrase!

Since we do care about this historic minutia, I guess our lives are as mundane and unimportant as yours! What a pathetic bunch we are!

Maybe history really is important (like my 4th grade teacher said), & we are leaving a legacy to future generations.
Can you imagine the historical gold mine someone will find in 150 years when they look at the archives of AAPK?
What you are doing LT, what we are all doing, is leaving history to our children & grandchildren. I think that is important!

Just my 2¢,
Dale

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:57 pm

OK I knew there must be a reason. Now Dale could you put my pictures back on the threads they are vanishing from. Seriously was hup wit dat. Any ideas???? it is kind of cool though my doorbell keeps going off by itself . Pics are vanishing from the other threads I posted on. I could be in the center of the famous Bermuda ( New York) knife triangle. ???? LT

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:17 am

I for one am glad I asked, LT! Keep rambling!
As for your vanishing pictures, I think notifying a monitor is in order! It is possible that "hosted" pics can be interrupted (i.e: photobucket) by losing them at the host site (deleting?) but here, I'm not so sure. Someone smarter than me needs to comment!!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:47 am

LT,
I have no idea as to why your pics are vanishing.

That is a good question for Bryan.

Dale

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:23 am

I realize that Dale, I was just funning in fact that was what i was doing when I wrote about minutia I certainly was not calling anyone pathetic or mundane nor did I wish to offend, I simply did not want to write a long dissertation on something very small and that I did not think anyone really cared about. It was more of an apology for taking up so much time for what should be a simple question. I contacted Phil because his email happened to be readily available I am not sure how to contact Bryan. In fact I have been wanting to contact him about a knife I have in mind for him but frankly as interested as I am in past knife minutia that is in reverse to how bad I am with computers. My reflections are upon myself no one else. Apparently I do care a bit about history perhapes not for the reasons you mention considering my family situation, however quite deeply for my own reasons. I just did not want to interject a long answer with out a bit of levity for those who find me ( rightly ) long winded. In fact tomorrow I have a meeting regarding the museum which now that my bill is a law has been approved and is moving along. Regarding Bryan I did what any not to great computer person would do to contact him . I shot off a flare in the back yard and so far no response from him. Only the local police . ( again that was meant as a joke ). LT

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:41 am

It is too bad we cannot all have a huge conference call.
Since you (LT) & I have talked at length on the phone on a regular basis, it is easier to pick up your humor. I know that you are joking, that is why I was joking back.

If we could all get on a huge conference call or even three or four of us at once, we could all pick out each other's sense of humor with greater ease. Besides I think it would be a fun conversation to be in on.

Alas & alack, I guess we will just all have to drive to LT’s house for a big party!

Charlie, I will meet you in Helena & we can carpool to LT’s party.

We can pick up Johnnie in Nebraska it he can make it that far north; Eric is already in NY. Sorry Sunburst, I guess you are on your own to get to LT’s. It is a straight shot North for you.

Can you imagine what a crazy party that would be?? A bunch of certifiable knife nuts all getting together in the home (and museum) of the biggest knife nut around? We would be trading knives & discussing knife minutia to the wee hours of the morning.

::blah::

I had a similar experience at a RTDA (Retail Tobacco Dealers Assoc.) show in Chicago one year. About 5 pipe collectors (myself included) got together in the suite of a supplier and discussed minutia relating to the design of the "billiard" shape of pipe. We talked until about 4:30 AM about what makes a good billiard a great billiard. We dissected the design in extreme detail. We were not even drinking, though you might say we were drunk on pipe minutia. It was a glorious time.

I think we should get together at LT’s house and have the same sort of experience with knife minutia. We would have a great time, of that I am confident!

I wish it wasn’t so far back to NY.

Dale

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:45 am

LT,

Where are you looking to site the museum? If it's local and you need any help carpentry wise, let me know. A free pass on opening day is all I require as payment.

Eric

PS- Just read Dale's post-count me in! ( Nothing like a bunch of nut-jobs inviting themselves to a party that the host doesn't even know about!

)

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:18 am

Oh EA I actually pity you, Buzzy and Wayne are both friends as is Waynes wife who used to come for Halloween goodies at my house as a kid. We used to make homemade candy apples in those days probably get arrested for that today. The reason i pity you is that I have lots of info on you and I will be looking for you for a lot more than carpenter work you are already signed on you just have not been informed. Please give me a call Buzzy has my number he or Wayne was supposed to contact you to bring you over for a tour. I will be glad to fill you in . Ever hear of selective service congrats you are selected. Looking forward to meeting you .

Dale regarding the party you propose 1, Ill buy 2, Deal me in 3 could someone bring some females I have everything else. LT

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:08 am

Well, looks like there's no turning back now, lest I go AWOL. I'll give Buzzy a call tomorrow for you're # so I can get my marching orders. Geez, I can only imagine what they said about me

. Thanks for the invite LT, I look forward to the tour, do you supply drool cups?

Eric

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:53 am

Once you drink the crown royal in them you can drool in them if you want. LT

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:38 pm

Hey! If anybody is going through North Texas on the way, swing by and pick me up. I'll help drive, buy some gas, etc.
As for women, I think I can get Wonder Woman to come along. She's a BIG fan of yours and is dying to meet you. I showed her your picture in your switchblade book and she said something to the effect of, she would like to "drag you back into the woods and butter your grits", what ever that means.

I've never been up in that neck of the woods. Seems like Folks from up there think I talk "funny". Don't tell anybody but it ain't me, it's THEM.
I would like to take a tour up there, some day and go to all the towns, like Little Valley, Springville, Eldred, Kane,Tidioute and others that were part of the "one hundred mile magic circle".
OOPS! I'll shut up.
...CCBill...

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 7:15 pm

You know LT, that's a helluva an offer that CCBill has made.

She is such an All American Girl, that you might consider sending a cab to Tejas.

JMO of course.

Sweaty Bill

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:02 pm

Hi Sweaty Bill..
Wonder Woman, as lovely as she used to be, is a little older now and since the end of her TV show, has kinda, well, let herself go, a little bit. Even though, she has a GREAT personality. Maybe YOU would like to meet her? Send me your phone number and I will give it to her. She doesn't care if you are married or single, just so long as you are breathing, and have some money.
...CCBill...

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:11 pm

Thank you for posing that unique opportunity to me CCBill. However, that looks a mite like "Wonda" Woman...you know, like "Wonda Wood" is to a fine Maple Burl or a nice PIECE of Ironwood...not Wonder Woman the sleek, well turned woman of my youth. Sooooooooo, I'm gonna take a BIG pass on the melting of our sweaty bodies (most especially hers

).
Thanks though. Oh, and I admire ANYBODY with the large, solid cojones necessary to keep that picture stored on his computer.

OK then, I'm gonna need some Crown to wipe that from my mindseye.

Hasta la vista.....baby.

Dry as a bone Bill

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:53 am

Guess what Lobo..............................................................................
Somewhere in your computer resides that image, whether you know it or not.
I think the only cure is to pour Crown Royal directly into your hard drive!

Dale

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:16 pm

Now here is an idea! Swing by even farther North in Texas (the Panhandle), and pick me up. Continue on to Nashville and pick up Perry. Make sure Perry knows he also has to bring Faith. Much better than Wonder Woman!

I suspose we could invite Tim?

BUT ONLY IF HE LOVES KNIVES AS MUCH AS HE LOVES FAITH! Now is that a plan or what?

Kelley

Ringmaster · Post by **Ringmaster** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:33 pm

Ya'll are gonna need a bus, before this is over !

Wish I could go JR

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:36 pm

i'll drive to the panhandle for ride.

or new mexico. about the same for me.