The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
I think that these are counterfeits. They don't have any numbers on them identifying the pattern.
Also, I have a really stupid question. What is the difference between Case and Case Classic? Don't freak out on me! I tried to find something that explained what the difference was, and I couldn't. I guess if you are a collector you just know.
This one just says Case with Tested XX under it.
This one just says Case XX U.S.A. Neither knife has brass on the liners.
Attachments
Kasey
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."- Teddy Roosevelt
"I have learned over the years that when one's mind is made up, this diminishes fear; knowing what must be done does away with fear."
— Rosa Parks
Thanks, Larry! I looked at Cases for so long on Thursday, I thought I was going to go crazy. Most of the ones Dad recently acquired are actually newer ones. I think one may have been from 1993 maybe a few more from the 80-90's, but I was so unsure if I was aging and identifying them correctly! I had about 5 different screens with different identifiers that I was going through for each knife, and then I didn't know what a Case Classic was......... I was doubting myself on some of the datings because they didn't exactly match some of the Tang Stamp patterns I was looking at, and then I was worried that I didn't match the shield with it......if the S was tall or whatever...I finally just had to stop before I went crazy.
I have so much respect for the "experts" on these knives. It is a science in and of itself!
Kasey
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."- Teddy Roosevelt
"I have learned over the years that when one's mind is made up, this diminishes fear; knowing what must be done does away with fear."
— Rosa Parks
Kasey
Case Classic was started by James Parker sometime in th 90s. I don't know too much about them, but I'm sure someone on this forum can tell you about them. Larry
No one freaks out on anyone around here for wanting to learn and asking a question. Especially when the asker is trying to learn by doing their own research too!
Addition pic angles are always helpful when someone thinks a knife has issues. IE: pics of backsprings blades open, knife interior blades open, both sides of the knife and closeups of anything you feel is not right.
From what I can tell from the pics, they look fine.
First knife is a TESTED (assumed 1920' to 1940') 6208 LP (Long Pull) "Half Whittler" with rough black handles. Technically a pen knife.
The mark side (shield side) handle jigging should match the pile side (backside) jigging pattern as these handle were actually molded and not jigged.
EDIT: See correction below on the top knife pattern/model number.
The second knife is a CASE XX USA (65' thru 69') 6244 Jack knife. I am pretty sure you will see the model stamp on the pile side of the master blade tang.
Niether knife concerns me that the liners are made of NS (nickel silver). Use of NS or brass liners on CASE knives varied depending on what pattern knife and year/era. As a general rule, alot of brass was used on CASE knives from the late 1970's on. Knives made around WW2 may not be brass lined since that metal was used in making ammunition.
Regards, Jerry
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much; who leaves the world better than he found it; who never lacked appreciation of earth's beauty or failed to express it; who looked for the best in other's and gave the best he had.
msteele6 wrote:Actually, the top knife appears to be a 67 pattern.
Yes Sir Mark, you are correct. Missed the hump on the top middle of the frame. Good catch. TESTED 06267 it is! Don't see those around often.
Jerry
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much; who leaves the world better than he found it; who never lacked appreciation of earth's beauty or failed to express it; who looked for the best in other's and gave the best he had.
A pretty easy mistake to make (especially when the back of the knife is lined up with the ruler), the 67 pattern is not really seen as often as the 07.
A pretty easy mistake to make (especially when the back of the knife is lined up with the ruler), the 67 pattern is not really seen as often as the 07.
Mark
Yea Mark, you don't see those 67s often for damn sure. Easy to mistake them as you said especially if you are not paying attention.
I love that pattern. In all the CASE knives I own, I only have one but she is a doosey. Near mint, uncleaned XX 06267LP. One of my most pristine XX knives. Wish they continued to make that at least thru the 70s' but no, died in USA.
Nice knife Kasey!
Here is a link to a CASE 67 pattern thread with some member's 67s shown. Great pattern!
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much; who leaves the world better than he found it; who never lacked appreciation of earth's beauty or failed to express it; who looked for the best in other's and gave the best he had.
Interesting to see both back and front of those rough black handles. If you study them closely you can see that the jigging pattern is exactly the same.
msteele6 wrote:Interesting to see both back and front of those rough black handles. If you study them closely you can see that the jigging pattern is exactly the same.
yes Sir, molded not jigged is my understanding. As you know, this is common with CASE rough black handles. I personally would be suspect if they did not match pretty closely. Maybe not 100% as far as mold depth but the same basic "jig" pattern and pretty damn close.
Nice example Jerry (the other one).
That man is a success who has lived well, laughed often and loved much; who leaves the world better than he found it; who never lacked appreciation of earth's beauty or failed to express it; who looked for the best in other's and gave the best he had.
You were correct on the Jack Knife. I had to get in very good light and use the strongest magnifying glass that I had and I can barely make out 624. The last 4 looks to have been rubbed out from opening and closing. The numbers aren't etched as deeply as those I've seen on other knives.
Thank you so much for the information. It is fascinating. It is really neat the way that the molding lines up, too, on the Tested knife!
Kasey
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far."- Teddy Roosevelt
"I have learned over the years that when one's mind is made up, this diminishes fear; knowing what must be done does away with fear."
— Rosa Parks
