SCHRADES MY TRUE LOVE

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:48 pm

I may be biased, but the muskrat (MVC-024S.JPG) speaks to me. those all all beauties, but that muskrat just caught my eye.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:59 pm

I made a post earlier but I don't see it here now.

I love the Daddy Barlow the most, followed by the other Barlows, though that green bone Muskrat has a great deal of appeal to me.

Thanks for sharing with us,
Dale

ribbedbumpers · Post by **ribbedbumpers** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:33 pm

Lt... Thanks again, and again for the time and effort taken to make these posts.. One of my favorites is the little swell center jigged whittler...

GB

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:18 pm

Thanks for the discourse, LT. It's not an easy body of knowledge to grasp all at once. I'm trying to understand the history without predjudice.
How many people actually know the whole story I wonder?? No one has come forward except you, especially on the older Waldens and Cut. Co.s, with the time line.
I once thought I could re-create a history with a comprehensive collection, but I've run up against the cost. Can't afford many any more. Your collection, and knowledge, is the best hope to preserve the Schrade story so callously cast to the wind!

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:37 am

That's an excellent explanation LT, got me going back and checking over my bone examples now. That jigged 2OT is absolutely fabulous! Never even new they existed 'till tonight. Thanks!

Eric

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:45 am

LT,
I've got a question re. a Schrade-Walden 834. It's got stag handles and I'll be darned if I can find any reference to stag handled 834's anywhere. Could it be an old re-handle?

Eric

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:09 am

Ok this is only a thinking out loud opinion I do not remember stag regarding this knife . However it could very well be out of the factory I doubt it because they did not do them that way then, however you have to remember the beauty of Schrade and the enigma of it is that ( as I have said many times you might find anything. ). The way the shield is pinned and the general nice fit is in favor of factory, the material for that vintage is against. The nice condition of the handles of a knife this age is against the rough condition of the blades ect. How is the walk and talk? If I had to flip a coin I would say it is rehandle. If the walk and talk are bad I would say that confims it as a rehandle. If it is real good that would add points on the original side. Now how about for a bullshit answer. LT

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:43 am

As you said LT..........."the beauty of Schrade...."

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:00 pm

orvet wrote:
As you said LT..........."the beauty of Schrade...."

Also the beauty of Bullshit

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 11:01 pm

I KNOW you have a sense of humor, LT!

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:46 am

As I have said before my Grandfather in OKLA raised cattle and sold them all over the country he was a great bullshipper. While I do not raise cattle I have tried to follow in his footsteps as closly as I could and have often been called a great bullshipper with only a couple of letters different. LT

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:24 am

I think you are doing a great job of following in his footsteps (I'm sure he stepped carefully!), and you are a fine example for, and influence on, the youth of today!

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:08 pm

Charlie,
Guess it was a little too heavy for the scanner, eh?

Lt,
Thanks for the reply! Walk and talk is great on all but the spey which does bind up a bit mid-way. The handles are quite pocket worn, although not as much as the blades. Maybe Herman Williams was practicing his stag mounting craft in his spare time

. nevertheless it is a nice variation on the standard handles.

Eric

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:44 pm

You never know believe me I have encountered stranger stuff. Here is a hint Herman very seldom did a knife without also doing file work. Sorry I could not have been more definitive. What you say is very true obviously a knife someone cared and carried for a long time the slow blade the amount of wear because someone obviously did use it for a long time makes me feel it is a rehandle. I also agree with your observation that it is a nice alternate represenative . Thanks for posting it. LT

redferd · Post by **redferd** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:14 pm

LT, just to let you know that I too am interested in Schrade knives. I have been for several years +. Thanks for the information. I enjoyed reading all the posts. Very informative. Thank you.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:31 pm

ea42 wrote:Charlie,
Guess it was a little too heavy for the scanner, eh?

Lt,
Thanks for the reply! Walk and talk is great on all but the spey which does bind up a bit mid-way. The handles are quite pocket worn, although not as much as the blades. Maybe Herman Williams was practicing his stag mounting craft in his spare time . nevertheless it is a nice variation on the standard handles.

Eric

In my limited experience, I've never seen a stag 834. If no-one has, it's a strong vote for a rehandle. Can you ask Herman if he ever did one?

Off to buy a new scanner! Mine's kind of crooked. Still sort of works, but it smells bad

!

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:17 am

Two new (to me) knives last week; a timber scribe or rase knife, this one's a Cut. Co. in very excellent condition. Then a DASCO Harness Jack, which I am pretty sure is a contract knife from Schrade! Any confirmation on that one??

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:50 am

hey charlie, the dasco is from damascus steel products corp. out of rockford il. tool manufacturer, 1922-. note says they made knives from 1930-1942. don't know if they made or had it made but it's cool old knife. i like the race knife too, i hasve one as well.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:49 am

Great old rase Charlie! Love those old Cut Co.s

As much timber as comes out of our part of the world, you would think we would be tripping over then out here, but I don't think I have ever seen one outside of a show.

Dale

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:39 am

orvet wrote:Great old rase Charlie! Love those old Cut Co.s
As much timber as comes out of our part of the world, you would think we would be tripping over then out here, but I don't think I have ever seen one outside of a show.

Dale

That rase came from a friend in Rhode Island, Dale. He comes up with the odd Schrade now and then.
Wouldn't it be nice to travel to all the states, hitting a show in each one?!!
I'm lucky to have some scouts out there!

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:11 pm

LT, or anyone else for that matter- have any of you seen (or possess) one of the original "Germany" marked Cut. Cos. ? I never have myself, seems they're rarer than finding a 2OT.

Eric

lt632ret · Post by **lt632ret** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:16 pm

I do not have one. I have not seen one in person. They are extremely rare I know of only the Sargent reference. To which I would guess you refer. I own numerous pieces from Press button and other firms which predate this. However I have not come across one. Apparently the one in the book came from Schrade itself since most of Jims pics were from the Schrade collection. I have spoken to several people who are the oldest people around who might know. They were unaware of them. Apparently when they first opened they attempted to to use German blades. Possibly not many shipments. There razors in the beginning were imported from Germany and are so marked. Razors were a particular nusance and therefore were imported at least at one time or another. Cutlers who made razors were considered the elite and got paid the most. They were also hard to find. Unlike knife blades which could be made in quantity with G Schrades new ( then ) techniques. Razors consumed more time they were hands on and Germany was quite good at making them. Over the years they did try various German products. I have the only pair of shears ( scissors ) that I have ever seen marked Schrade Cut Co. They were not marked Germany however upon checking Schrade was never equipted to make shears and my information from Dave Swinden was that it was a sample or one of a few samples that were accepted by, but never sold in the Schrade line and were imported from Germany. The German tang knives could have only been used for a short period and probably were for start up use this is not unusual ( for a company to buy blanks when first starting up to give them time to get things going.). So here is one I cannot show a picture of sorry. Now that I think about it I believe I did see one on ebay a number of years ago. However it was at that time beyond my means. LT

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:57 pm

I have tried other places on the various forums to get more info on this knife, to no avail! But I know here, someone will answer the questions, this being the best Schrade thread in the known Universe!!!!

Please oh great experts of Schrade, tell me what you know about this decorated Schrade!! When, where, why; all the usual knife questions please!!

By Shaw-Leibowitz, and Schrade!!

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:26 am

LT,
Thanks for that incredibly informative reply (as usual

). Yes the Sargent was it, although I have seen mention of it in Price's Price Guide also, but alas, no picture. I can only imagine that someone in our area has one stashed in a trunk in the attic waiting for a garage sale. I know, wishful thinking.

Eric

Charlie, that one's a mystery to me

, didn't Shaw -Leibowitz do the etch on the Excelsior grade Kentucky Rifle knife for A.G.Russell?

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:05 pm

Charlie, that one's a mystery to me Shrug , didn't Shaw -Leibowitz do the etch on the Excelsior grade Kentucky Rifle knife for A.G.Russell?

Don't know about that one Eric, but they did some incredible blade etches over the years!

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