A celluloid video

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A celluloid video

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just a quick video I shot this morning on celluloid, I get more repairs and questions about celluloid than anything else
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2wv-auh ... e=youtu.be
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Thanks for taking the time to make the video and for posting...I picked up some great new information! Good work ::tu::
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Good video--I've got a big Winchester Candy Stripe that shows signs of gassing on the back side--when the bolsters start changing are you able to save those by polishing or will those need replaced?
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Kyle here's a pic of the knife I mentioned in the above post I'd like it re-handled pm me if you're interested in doing it
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bolsters and most blades can be polished out. usually the only irreversible damage is busted liners or deeply pitted blades. But liners can be replaced. The winchesters made on the case classic tooling such as yours are bad about outgassing. shoot me an email with what you'd like done to it muskratmanknives@gmail.com
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Very good video MM. It amazes me that modern makers are still using the material knowing what it is going to do down the road. The Case Classics seem to go pretty quickly. In the guitar and mandolin world, the early instrument makers used celluloid for binding around the body of the instrument and for the knobs on the tuning machines. Needless to say, there have been a lot of very expensive refinishings done through the years caused by the out gassing of the binding.
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That´s quite an interesting topic. I just wonder when they stopped using the "real" celluloid, especially in german production. The celluloid of the old days was hazardous stuff and many severe fires and explosions occurred back in the day. Lot´s of film material got lost due to fires and it was banned because of this. Apparently celluloid is still used for table tennis balls and fountain pens today. This seems very strange to me as it is a very dangerous material. Typical celluloid contains up to 80% nitrocellulose which is also know under the term "guncotton".

So are the handles of, let´s say 80ies Fight n Roosters, still made of the real celluloid? ::hmm:: I can´t imagine cutlers in safety obsessed Germany grinding happiliy away celluloid handles. ::shrug::

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Good informative video Kaleb! ::tu:: ::tu::
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Capt. Farrel wrote:That´s quite an interesting topic. I just wonder when they stopped using the "real" celluloid, especially in german production. The celluloid of the old days was hazardous stuff and many severe fires and explosions occurred back in the day. Lot´s of film material got lost due to fires and it was banned because of this. Apparently celluloid is still used for table tennis balls and fountain pens today. This seems very strange to me as it is a very dangerous material. Typical celluloid contains up to 80% nitrocellulose which is also know under the term "guncotton".

So are the handles of, let´s say 80ies Fight n Roosters, still made of the real celluloid? ::hmm:: I can´t imagine cutlers in safety obsessed Germany grinding happiliy away celluloid handles. ::shrug::

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It would be nice to know an more or less exact date and what material they use now instead of celluloid. I guess I will call the Olbertz factory if I can find the time.

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