Winterbottom
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Re: Winterbottom
Works for me!BuckeyeSchatt wrote:I hope this works.
Nice bunch of Schatts!!!
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Re: Winterbottom
Thanks philco, this is the first time I have posted pictures, I couldn't done without the help from you and Sarah's "How To Post Pictures"philco wrote:Works for me!BuckeyeSchatt wrote:I hope this works.![]()
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Re: Winterbottom
Always did like this handle material. The story about Samuel Winterbottom is pretty interesting too! I can add a couple to the show!
A Queen Classic And a Whittler on an equal end frame. Dave
A Queen Classic And a Whittler on an equal end frame. Dave
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Re: Winterbottom
A few examples of Winterbottom bone starting in the 1930 and into the 1970s.
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Re: Winterbottom
Nice knives and picture, David!
The first knife here has early Winterbottom, dyed red for Case Bros.
Then a later style for Queen when they were doing aluminum bolsters.
Next an 80s-90s synthetic, then an inadvertent orange dyed example (anyone know about these?). A recent dark synthetic, and finally, a surface-dyed recent example - 90s? 2000s?
The first knife here has early Winterbottom, dyed red for Case Bros.
Then a later style for Queen when they were doing aluminum bolsters.
Next an 80s-90s synthetic, then an inadvertent orange dyed example (anyone know about these?). A recent dark synthetic, and finally, a surface-dyed recent example - 90s? 2000s?
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Re: Winterbottom
What makes it "Winterbottom"? Is it the fact that it is cut lengthwise to the knife?
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Re: Winterbottom
Samuel Winterbottom was the name of the man that started and owned the factory in Egg Harbor. Much as Rogers bone is also named for the Rogers Manfacturing Co.
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Re: Winterbottom
So then, is everything that is longitudinal cut considered "winterbottom"? I don't think the guys name is on it.
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God Bless America - Though I don't know why he would want to.
God Bless America - Though I don't know why he would want to.
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Re: Winterbottom
tjmurphy this link might help.tjmurphy wrote:So then, is everything that is longitudinal cut considered "winterbottom"? I don't think the guys name is on it.
http://knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/791926/
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Re: Winterbottom
Heres some Winterbottom Queens.
The two on bottom are bone; top three are plastic.
BuckeyeSchatt, Thanks for the info. link. I like that stuff.
nifbuf, thanks for the nice old pictures, and all for the photos of the great knives.
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The two on bottom are bone; top three are plastic.
BuckeyeSchatt, Thanks for the info. link. I like that stuff.
nifbuf, thanks for the nice old pictures, and all for the photos of the great knives.
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Re: Winterbottom
The real thing is getting kinda scarce! Seems that the winterbottom knives get snapped up quick unless they're labeled wrong (as delrin).
Here's a few vintage Queens.
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Re: Winterbottom
Here's my contribution to the thread - Queen Dan Burke Winterbottom
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Re: Winterbottom
Nice Dan Burkes TJ, these are advertised as Winterbottom but I was told these are not true Winterbottom bone, but repoductions. Great looking knives either waytjmurphy wrote:Here's my contribution to the thread - Queen Dan Burke Winterbottom
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Re: Winterbottom
What would separate Real Winterbottom from Reproduction?
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God Bless America - Though I don't know why he would want to.
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Re: Winterbottom
In David Krauss's book 'American Pocketknives A History of Schatt & Morgan and Queen Cutlery' states " All Winterbottom bone came from Samuel Winterbottom Sons which was originally called Winterbottom Cutlery Works the author goes on and states that the Winterbottom foctory was sold in 1968 and no more Winterbottom was produced.tjmurphy wrote:What would separate Real Winterbottom from Reproduction?
The scales on your knives are Winterbottom type jigging but not original Winterbottom made in Egg Harbor. Queen continued to use old Winterbottom stock that they saved until recently.C Risner had Queen make him a series of S&M Improved Muskrat knives (four series set) in 2008 of what little stock that Queen had in storage and he told me that there is not much if any left. Series III of the Schatt & Morgans series sets are made from old Winterbottom stock also.
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Re: Winterbottom
BuckeyeSchatt,
Thanks for the excerpt from David Krauss's book about Winterbottom bone. I didn't realize my Muskrat was made from some of the last of the "original" stock. Mine came from Mr. Risner's 2008 series.
Would love to have all 4 in the set .........
Thanks for the excerpt from David Krauss's book about Winterbottom bone. I didn't realize my Muskrat was made from some of the last of the "original" stock. Mine came from Mr. Risner's 2008 series.
Would love to have all 4 in the set .........
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Re: Winterbottom
You better give Clarence a callhatback wrote:BuckeyeSchatt,
Thanks for the excerpt from David Krauss's book about Winterbottom bone. I didn't realize my Muskrat was made from some of the last of the "original" stock. Mine came from Mr. Risner's 2008 series.
Would love to have all 4 in the set .........
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Re: Winterbottom
Buckeye,
I didn't know beans came in so many flavors .....
..... saved my pennies to get the set of 4 from Clarence.
Each one has it's own personality.
I didn't know beans came in so many flavors .....
..... saved my pennies to get the set of 4 from Clarence.
Each one has it's own personality.
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Re: Winterbottom
Nice set of Rats ,hatback !!!!!!!!!!!!! I got some of that old winterbottom bone on this Queen folder_______she's in the "'Hospital"" with , Doctor Muskrat 'Man,giving her a complete physical,and cleaning____I'll post the after pictures,when I get her, back 
I'm not young enough,____to know everything !!!!!!!!!!!!
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