Boker "Tang Stamp Series"

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:07 pm

Does anybody have a Boker catalog ('04 or '05 maybe?) that lists the "Tang Stamp Series" knives, I was wanting to know how many different knives are in the series. I've seen twelve different ones for sale here and there...are there more? Also, what do the different dates on the left shield signify? I've seen three different years: 1848, 1900, and 1907.

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:03 pm

Hey ddixon,
I've only seen 10 so far. I don't own any of these, but you've got me thinkin'.
Here's what I've seen. All of these I THINK may have come in Red Bone, Green Bone, and Stag.
I, like you, have only seen the years 1848, 1900, , 1907. Maybe these are the years that the logo had major changes, although if you look at the collection of tree logos on Hawke's site, then there ahould have also been an 1887 and 1915...

200 Canoe - 1907 shield
280 Whittler - 1848 shield
493 Barlow - 1907 shield
495 Razor Barlow
2525 Trapper - 1848 shield
5464 Congress - 1907 shield
5474 Congress
7474 Stockman - 1907 shield
70113 Congress
? Copperhead

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:32 pm

Here's a link to the 2005 Catalog. I don't see the Tang Stamp Series in it. They must have come out in 2006.
http://www.gunsforsale.com/boker.2005.cat.htm

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:38 am

speaking of tang stamp series, check this one out from 1981. Look at the factory paperwork. Calls this knife "The Collector", and says it is number ten in the series...

http://cgi.ebay.com/GERMAN-BOKER-LTD-ED ... 20aed4681e

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:08 am

I think you found most if not all the patterns I found, Duncan plus maybe one or two more. I didn't know about the 495 Barlow with razor, or the Copperhead. One that isn't on your list is a 9885 Stockman, which comes with both square and rounded bolsters. The square bolstered 9885 has 1848 shield, and the rounded has 1900 shield. I think Boker must use the same number for several variants of each pattern or something. I have also seen the 70113 Congress with both regular (1907 shield) and stepped bolsters (1900 shield).

Never seen that one called "The Collector" before. I like it.

philco · Post by **philco** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:06 pm

I have the big 5474 congress tang stamp series in red bone. It has a 1915 shield.

Phil

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:03 pm

philco wrote:I have the big 5474 congress tang stamp series in red bone. It has a 1915 shield.

Phil

Cool Phil! That's makes one think there may be an 1887 out there somewhere too.

TJT · Post by **TJT** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:05 pm

Hello all,
The tang stamp series never appeared in our catalog. They were a special series available only to Smoky Mountain Knifeworks. I imagine they would have all the information on how many, and what years were represented.
Terry

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:45 pm

Terry, thanks for that info. Very helpful.

Phil, that's interesting. I think Blue's theory may be right based on your shield date. When I get time I'm going to ask SMKW about the series. I'll post back here with anything I learn.

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:22 am

Not a good picture but the only one I have now. There are 12 knives in the series.On the right front to back. Clip Blade Barlow,
Swell Center Whittler, Serpentine Whittler, Step Bolster Congress, Small Congress and Large Congress. Left front to back One Arm/Razor Barlow, Canoe, Copperhead, Stockman, Slant Bolster Stockman and Trapper.

philco · Post by **philco** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:38 am

Gundogger,

Can you tell us the diffferent dates used on those tang stamps please?

BTW that is a very nice collection.

Phil

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:42 pm

Clip blade Barlow 1907
One Arm/ Razor Barlow 1940
Swell Center Whittler 1915
Serpentine Whittler 1848
Step Bolster Congress 1900
Small Congress 1887
Large Congress 1915
Canoe 1907
Copperhead 1887
Stockman 1900
Slant Bolster Stockman 1940
Trapper 1848

I had done another post with all the different tang stamps but when I went to post it I got kicked out. Each knife has a different tang stamp from Boker's past. Sorry I lost it,guess I can't type fast enough. I may try and take picture's of them.

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:28 pm

Gundoger, thanks for the pictures and info. I've been thinking about maybe trying to collect the TS series in red bone. Seeing your collection makes me want to give it a shot.

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:25 pm

ddixon, It's a nice set and with all the different tang stamps it makes it very interesting. Good luck on your search.
Gundoger

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:39 pm

Gundoger, do the two stockmans have different model numbers or are they the same?

Thanks

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:36 pm

There are no numbers on the knife,the boxes are marked the same. BK 7474 ST
I have one box that is marked "2525 BBSM for SMKW" witch is line with what Terry said about them being made for SMKW.
Another box is marked "2626 HPC Off the Wall", I read somewhere that the "Off the Wall" referred to the salesman's sample board. Not sure about that. I don't know what the "BBSM" or the "HPC" stands for.
Gundoger

Hawke · Post by **Hawke** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:08 am

gundoger,
Man I would really like to have some pictures of these tangs and knives for HBN site. Would you consider that please.

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:54 am

Hawke,I'll see what I can do tomorrow but it may have to wait until Saturday. Is that OK?
Gundoger

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:26 am

gundoger wrote:There are no numbers on the knife,the boxes are marked the same. BK 7474 ST
I have one box that is marked "2525 BBSM for SMKW" witch is line with what Terry said about them being made for SMKW.
Another box is marked "2626 HPC Off the Wall", I read somewhere that the "Off the Wall" referred to the salesman's sample board. Not sure about that. I don't know what the "BBSM" or the "HPC" stands for.
Gundoger

That stockman with the slanted bolsters looks more like a 9885 to me ???

???

Beautiful set

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:08 am

rangerbluedog,it very well could be. I am not all that familiar with Boker's pattern number's. I know that the regular Stockman came in a box labeled ""BK 7474 ST" and it was supposed to be "NIB". So I assumed that the other stockman came in the other 7474 box. I do remember a couple of seller's saying "not in original box",that could be the case here. I also have two box's that the label has been peeled off. I was planing on using the list you posted and a catalog to try and match everything up as it seams things got mixed up. Thank you for identifying that knife,maybe I should put up a list of the number's I do have and see if they can be matched to the pattern.
Thanks Gundoger

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:25 pm

The box my Boker stockman with slanted bolsters came in is labeled 9885, but a guy who lives near me has a NIB stockman with rounded bolsters and his box is also labeled 9885. That's why I was wondering what numbers gundoger's stockmans had.

rangerbluedog · Post by **rangerbluedog** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:28 pm

I'm pretty sure the 4" stockman with round bolsters is 7474, and the 4" stockman with slanted squared bolsters is 9885.

ddixon · Post by **ddixon** » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:20 pm

I think you're right Blue. That matches what's in the 2005 Boker catalog I saw online somewhere or other.

gundoger · Post by **gundoger** » Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:27 am

Here are some pic.'s of my set.If you click on the pic. it will enlarge so you can read the tang stamp. Sorry for the low resolution,does anyone know the largest size a pic. can be to post?
I want to thank everyone for posting patten numbers,now I can get the right knife to the right box.
Thanks
Gundoger