CASE 6465

The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
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CASE 6465

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My dad was a big knife collector Remington was his favorite. He had some nice old knives from the different manufacturers. This 6465 is one example.
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Wow, that's a new on on me!
Bet that is a handful. ::nod::
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A really nice knife!

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Nice knife. Your dad took very good care of his knives.

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Nice knife, fairly rare, with killer Rogers bone handle covers. ::tu:: To my knowledge that pattern was discontinued some time during the TESTED XX era. Sad they haven’t made any knives with that worm-groove bone jigging in decades.

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Wow! Nice knife. I’ve never seen that pattern before thanks for sharing.
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Mumbleypeg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:12 pm Nice knife, fairly rare, with killer Rogers bone handle covers. ::tu:: To my knowledge that pattern was discontinued some time during the TESTED XX era. Sad they haven’t made any knives with that worm-groove bone jigging in decades.

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Why is that called Roger's bone? Very high dollar knife I'd say though.
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wlf wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:37 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:12 pm Nice knife, fairly rare, with killer Rogers bone handle covers. ::tu:: To my knowledge that pattern was discontinued some time during the TESTED XX era. Sad they haven’t made any knives with that worm-groove bone jigging in decades.

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Why is that called Roger's bone? Very high dollar knife I'd say though.
There’s an entire thread about Rogers bone here: https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=45098

It’s characterized by the randomness of the jigging pattern and the telltale “worm groove” pattern often present. The Rogers Bone Company owned the jigging equipment and supplied bone to several cutleries (and manufactures of other goods). They ceased making the bone around the early to mid-1960s, about the time Delrin started being used by many cutleries. I’ve read that Rogers became a significant supplier of Delrin but I’m not sure about the validity of that. ::shrug::

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I thought it said in Sargent it is green bone. I am not the knife collector that was my father. I just kind of look through the books he had
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LKSKNIVES wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:31 pm I thought it said in Sargent it is green bone. I am not the knife collector that was my father. I just kind of look through the books he had
Rogers bone refers to the jigging pattern. Greenbone refers to the dye color. Rogers supplied undyed jigged bone slabs, which cutleries dyed, then cut and hafted (sanded) to fit the respective knife's frame. Some places in Sargent's reference "Rogers greenbone". Both Rogers bone and greenbone can exist together, or separately.

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LKSKNIVES wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:57 pm This 6465 is one example.
What a beautiful old knife. I have never seen that pattern before either.
Thanks for showing it.
Please show more. ::nod::
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Mumbleypeg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:12 pm
wlf wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:37 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:12 pm Nice knife, fairly rare, with killer Rogers bone handle covers. ::tu:: To my knowledge that pattern was discontinued some time during the TESTED XX era. Sad they haven’t made any knives with that worm-groove bone jigging in decades.

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Why is that called Roger's bone? Very high dollar knife I'd say though.
There’s an entire thread about Rogers bone here: https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... hp?t=45098

It’s characterized by the randomness of the jigging pattern and the telltale “worm groove” pattern often present. The Rogers Bone Company owned the jigging equipment and supplied bone to several cutleries (and manufactures of other goods). They ceased making the bone around the early to mid-1960s, about the time Delrin started being used by many cutleries. I’ve read that Rogers became a significant supplier of Delrin but I’m not sure about the validity of that. ::shrug::

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This is Rogers bone and doesn't look at all like the OP to me ? The OP looks like regular older Case jigging , but I'm not a Case guy anymore,
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IMHO the Rogers bone examples you've shown are typical of what’s found (but not exclusively) on smaller Case patterns. Folding hunters and some other larger patterns, especially Case, Cattaraugus and some other knives, sometimes used a Rogers bone having what Rogers called ‘Indian Trail” jigging. Some call it “worm groove” jigging - probably a more politically correct terminology in today’s world.

That’s as it was explained to me anyway. I suppose perhaps it’s subjective - I wasn’t there when the bone was acquired. :lol: I don’t recall seeing those descriptions in manufacturers’ old catalogs, but maybe someone has. In references such as Sargent’s 7th edition, in the sections on Case Bradford, Case Tested etc one can find descriptions such as “greenbone”, Rogers bone, and “worm groove” bone. I may be wrong, if so it won’t be the first time.

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Like I said Ken, I'm not a Case guy anymore and have forgotten what I once thought I knew. :)
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Seems as though there is a lot of confusion about what true "Rogers" bone is.

Maybe someone can help clear up the confusion by posting some photos of antique pocketknives have jigged brown bone handles that are NOT Rogers bone. That may help educate us as to what does and does not constitute Rogers bone.

So if you can, please post photos of knives that meet all of the following three criteria:

#1 - Antique (pre-1940 era) knife.
#2 - Handles are jigged brown bone.
#3 - Handles are NOT Rogers bone.
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knifeaholic wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:25 pm Seems as though there is a lot of confusion about what true "Rogers" bone is.

Maybe someone can help clear up the confusion by posting some photos of antique pocketknives have jigged brown bone handles that are NOT Rogers bone. That may help educate us as to what does and does not constitute Rogers bone.

So if you can, please post photos of knives that meet all of the following three criteria:

#1 - Antique (pre-1940 era) knife.
#2 - Handles are jigged brown bone.
#3 - Handles are NOT Rogers bone.
Candidate for jigged bone that is not Rogers bone - Case Tested XX 61050.
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RalphAlsip wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 8:21 pm
knifeaholic wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2024 1:25 pm Seems as though there is a lot of confusion about what true "Rogers" bone is.

Maybe someone can help clear up the confusion by posting some photos of antique pocketknives have jigged brown bone handles that are NOT Rogers bone. That may help educate us as to what does and does not constitute Rogers bone.

So if you can, please post photos of knives that meet all of the following three criteria:

#1 - Antique (pre-1940 era) knife.
#2 - Handles are jigged brown bone.
#3 - Handles are NOT Rogers bone.
Candidate for jigged bone that is not Rogers bone - Case Tested XX 61050.
Nice knife, but does not meet my #2 - the handles are green bone, not brown bone.
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