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So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by TPK » Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:01 am

I've been wondering for the past three years how the knife brand Boker in pronounced in America. ::shrug::

Do you guys pronounce it like "Book-er" or like "Bock-er"? ::shrug:: :mrgreen:

The German brand Böker is pronounced like... ::hmm:: it's hard to translate because we don't have an english vowel that is spoken like the German " Ö " but my best shot at it would be something along the lines of "Bow-ker". Where as the O & the W melt together. So if you can melt an O and a W into one vowel, you can pronounce the word "Böker". :mrgreen:

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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Whitneyrifle » Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:13 am

Funny, my one grandfather was German and he quite frequently slipped into older “High-German” (we lived close to PA Dutch Country) and I always just naturally pronounced Boker that way. Like “taking a bow”.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by jerryd6818 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:15 am

I've always thought it was a long 'O' like in BOW 8 arrow. But since Whitneyrifle's grandfather was German, I bow to his pronunciation.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Old Hunter » Sun Nov 27, 2022 11:48 am

I pronounce Boker in the same manner Jerry D described Bow-cur with no W sound at all. Of course I use the eastern NC dialect of English, so my pronunciation in general can be different from that of urban raised folks. OH
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by terryl308 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:20 pm

I have always said bow cur, I too am of German decent, My dad could speak fairly good German since he was confirmed in the Lutheran church in both German and English. But that doesn't make me an expert though. lol Just my 2 cents worth. have a good day! Terry
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Post by treefarmer » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:39 pm

Most of the old cow hunters in Central Florida pronounced it “Treebrand” back in the old days! :)
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Post by Whitneyrifle » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:21 pm

Hey, I’m no expert just cause my Grandfather said it that way! He also said “Outten the light”, and “Over the fence throw the cow some hay”!
So, who knows!!! (Well, the Germans do)
The best I can really compare it too for my Grandfather would be (for us) Boo-kur
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Post by beresman » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:22 pm

In German, I always think of the ö as saying "ee" with my tongue, while making an "oh" with my lips. We Americans don't have that sound, though.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Railsplitter » Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:59 pm

I've always pronounced it like Joker with a B but I have no idea if that is the correct pronunciation.
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Post by dlr110 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:20 pm

I'm the same way Rick but I know I mis-pronounce a lot of brand names like Camillus. When I first saw that
name I had no idea what the word was or where it came from.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Railsplitter » Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:43 pm

dlr110 wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:20 pm
I'm the same way Rick but I know I mis-pronounce a lot of brand names like Camillus. When I first saw that
name I had no idea what the word was or where it came from.
It’s funny you should bring up Camillus. I know the proper pronunciation of Camillus but I still pronounce it the way that sounds right to me, which is actually wrong.
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Post by jerryd6818 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:07 pm

That's funny because when I first got into accumulating knives I had no idea how to pronounce Camillus. I called it "Cam-uh-luss" until I discovered that wasn't correct. ::facepalm::
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by TPK » Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:10 pm

Railsplitter wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:59 pm
I've always pronounced it like Joker with a B but I have no idea if that is the correct pronunciation.
That's a good description. ::tu:: That's exactly how I say it too. ::nod:: ::super_happy::
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by jerryd6818 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:30 pm

TPK wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:10 pm
Railsplitter wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:59 pm
I've always pronounced it like Joker with a B but I have no idea if that is the correct pronunciation.
That's a good description. ::tu:: That's exactly how I say it too. ::nod:: ::super_happy::
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Post by dlr110 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:04 pm

I had someone at a knife show say it was Că-mill-us. Now I'm so confused!!! ::dang::
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Colonel26 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:52 pm

TPK wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:10 pm
Railsplitter wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:59 pm
I've always pronounced it like Joker with a B but I have no idea if that is the correct pronunciation.
That's a good description. ::tu:: That's exactly how I say it too. ::nod:: ::super_happy::
I too pronounce it be with a long English o sound like joker.
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Most of the old cow hunters in Central Florida pronounced it “Treebrand” back in the old days! :)
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I had someone at a knife show say it was Că-mill-us. Now I'm so confused!!! ::dang::
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Post by dlr110 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:40 pm

Maybe we should ask someone from New York? Surely they know how the locals pronounce it.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by edge213 » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:04 pm

I've always said it to rhyme with Joker.
I've never ever heard anyone say it any other way.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Steve Warden » Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:26 pm

I guess the folks up garddogg's way would say "Bo-kah" :mrgreen:
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Mumbleypeg » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:09 am

My high school German teacher tried her best to teach us how to pronounce German words correctly. The ö sound, which as Tom says has no English equivalent, was drilled into us students over and over, as were all German vowels having an umlaut. I learned to pronounce ö as an “oer” sound. So if speaking German I would pronounce it as if it is “Boerker”, but with my mouth set as if to pronounce a w”. (Try saying “r” but with your mouth positioned to say a “w”. It’s not easy!) :lol:

Otherwise, in English I’ve always pronounced to as if it rhymes with Joker.

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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by zzyzzogeton » Mon Nov 28, 2022 3:35 am

dlr110 wrote:
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:20 pm
I'm the same way Rick but I know I mis-pronounce a lot of brand names like Camillus. When I first saw that
name I had no idea what the word was or where it came from.
When I started saying "Camillus", I just picked "Ka-mill-us" out of the air. Then I got curious, so one day I looked up and called the Chamber of Commerce office in Camillus, NY and asked. Turned out, I had picked the correct way to say it.

4 or 5 years ago, I was at a Gun & Knife show on a Sunday and a couple of guys were having a "disagreement" on how to say it. Neither of their ways were correct. And the bystanders were taking one incorrect pronunciation or the other.

Rather than try to jump in and correct anyone, I just said "Hey, let's call the town and ask them how they say it."

They looked at me like I had 3 eyes and 2 noses. Pulled out my phone, and since it was after hours for the CoC, I looked up the phone number for a pizza restaraunt in Camillus and put them on speaker.

I asked the guy who answered "Hey, we're just a bunch of good old boys down here in Texas arguing over how y'all say the name of y'all's town and I figured go straight to the horse for the answer. How do y'all say it?" ..... "Thank you."

Got 6 guys to use the correct pronunciation that day.

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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by jerryd6818 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:53 am

Early in my knife accumulation venture I had never heard of a Camillus knife. I was pronouncing it Cam-uh-lus. Took me a while to get the pronunciation correct.
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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by royal0014 » Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:19 am

What about "Cattaraugus" . . . . ?



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Re: So here's a stupid question. :-)

Post by Rookie » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:25 pm

All around here I know say Boker just like Joker or Poker. Long O sound.

Now how many of you say Tidioute correctly? Being so closeby it's just normal for the locals here to pronounce it, but I imagine if you've never heard it before it would be complicated.
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Post by Gunsil » Mon Nov 28, 2022 1:34 pm

royal0014 wrote:
Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:19 am
What about "Cattaraugus" . . . . ?



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A friend has an old Cattaraugus sales pamphlet that states the proper pronunciation is Cat-a-raw-goose. I have been there several times and nobody in the town of Cattaraugus or Cattaraugus county pronounces it that way these days.

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