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Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Tue May 03, 2022 10:30 pm

I have a JACK KNIFE BEN JR. with 0302 stamped on the back of the master blade. Can any one tell me who made the knife?

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Re: Number 0302

Post by 1967redrider » Wed May 04, 2022 12:37 am

Jacknifeben wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 10:30 pm
I have a JACK KNIFE BEN JR. with 0302 stamped on the back of the master blade. Can any one tell me who made the knife?

What pattern or can you post a picture, Jkb?
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Wed May 04, 2022 12:05 pm

3 3/4 inches closed.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by 1967redrider » Wed May 04, 2022 12:26 pm

I know he used a lot of high-end knives, could it be an early USA Boker or Winchester maybe? ::shrug::
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Re: Number 0302

Post by glennbad » Wed May 04, 2022 12:43 pm

That's giving me a Schrade or Ulster vibe

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Re: Number 0302

Post by 1967redrider » Wed May 04, 2022 12:47 pm

glennbad wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 12:43 pm
That's giving me a Schrade or Ulster vibe
I thought Schrade too, glenn. But did they use a pattern number like that? ::shrug:: The pattern number stamp reminds me of Boker/Primble.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by glennbad » Wed May 04, 2022 12:52 pm

1967redrider wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 12:47 pm
glennbad wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 12:43 pm
That's giving me a Schrade or Ulster vibe
I thought Schrade too, glenn. But did they use a pattern number like that? ::shrug:: The pattern number stamp reminds me of Boker/Primble.
I don't think Schrade or Ulster did, but the blade etch also reminds me of Schrade/Ulster, or similar font I think I've seen on Craftsman knives maybe?

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Re: Number 0302

Post by knifeaholic » Wed May 04, 2022 1:03 pm

It's a Schrade. They may have stamped the pattern number that Jack Knife Ben wanted, not a Schrade pattern number.

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Re: Number 0302

Post by jerryd6818 » Wed May 04, 2022 1:10 pm

knifeaholic wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 1:03 pm
It's a Schrade. They may have stamped the pattern number that Jack Knife Ben wanted, not a Schrade pattern number.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Beavertail » Wed May 04, 2022 1:13 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 1:10 pm
knifeaholic wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 1:03 pm
It's a Schrade. They may have stamped the pattern number that Jack Knife Ben wanted, not a Schrade pattern number.
From the horses mouth. Anything I could add would be from the other end of the horse.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Thu May 05, 2022 11:55 am

Thanks for the help, Collecting knives has been fun.😏

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Re: Number 0302

Post by 1967redrider » Thu May 05, 2022 12:16 pm

knifeaholic wrote:
Wed May 04, 2022 1:03 pm
It's a Schrade. They may have stamped the pattern number that Jack Knife Ben wanted, not a Schrade pattern number.
Thanks, Steve, mystery solved. ::handshake::
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Thu May 05, 2022 3:36 pm

This really solved my question. 😏😏😏😏😏.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by ea42 » Thu May 05, 2022 7:19 pm

Is it really 3 3/4", or possibly 3 3/8"?

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Re: Number 0302

Post by 1967redrider » Thu May 05, 2022 7:40 pm

🤔 So it's a Napanoch?
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Thu May 05, 2022 10:28 pm

3 3/8, sorry.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Thu May 05, 2022 10:34 pm

This one was by SCHRADE WALDEN N.Y.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by ea42 » Fri May 06, 2022 2:19 am

Jacknifeben wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 10:28 pm
3 3/8, sorry.
OK then that's definitely Schrade. That model carried over for a time from Schrade Cut Co into the Schrade Walden era. Here's a shot of it in the 1940 catalog:
ZZ Schrade Cut Co Three and Three Eighths Cattle Knife 1940 Cat..jpg

They shortened the long pull at some point in its production history but I'm not sure when. That pattern was also available with a lot of different blade combinations including a couple of four blade versions. They did a number of knives in that pattern for Maher and Grosh as well:

Maher and Grosh Cattle Knife 3.jpg
Schrade Walden Maher and Grosh 2.jpg

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Re: Number 0302

Post by kootenay joe » Fri May 06, 2022 2:57 am

Both knives posted by jacknifeben look like they were made by Schrade (Cut. Co. or Walden) based on the pictures posted by Eric (ea42).
I wonder if the Napanoch claim is wrong ? Just being in print from decades ago does not ensure accuracy.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by ea42 » Fri May 06, 2022 3:52 am

kootenay joe wrote:
Fri May 06, 2022 2:57 am
Both knives posted by jacknifeben look like they were made by Schrade (Cut. Co. or Walden) based on the pictures posted by Eric (ea42).
I wonder if the Napanoch claim is wrong ? Just being in print from decades ago does not ensure accuracy.
kj
Roland Napanoch's 0302 was in fact almost identical to the Schrade model, it even had almost the same shield. If I recall correctly though their version didn't hace threaded bolsters, and of course it had different jigging. I'm wondering if Schrade maintained that number for the sake of Jack Knife Ben. If he had originally used Napanoch for that model it would have been no problem for Schrade to keep that number up since by then I think Napanoch was out of business.

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Re: Number 0302

Post by peanut740 » Fri May 06, 2022 1:21 pm

Here's an earlier Schrade Cut version.
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Re: Number 0302

Post by Jacknifeben » Fri May 06, 2022 4:03 pm

Nice knife. You live close to Chicago? I live about three hours from there. A lot of farmers sent live stock over and always bought knives from Ben while they were there.

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Re: Number 0302

Post by peanut740 » Sat May 07, 2022 2:56 pm

No,I'm twice as far as you.
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