Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

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Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:42 pm

I bought this knife at an auction on Labor Day. I can’t read the maker. There are some letters and it almost looks like Winchester. What is the best way to clean the rust without damaging the knife? Does anyone recognize this knife and could help me with an ID? I appreciate the help I have received here on this forem! The knife is around 5” long closed.
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by doglegg » Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:58 pm

Rub the rust with the lead end of a pencil . It will remove most of the rust. Then oil it up. [the knife not the pencil]. ::facepalm::

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by 1967redrider » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:05 am

Anxious to see how this turns out. One thing for sure, it's not a Russell.
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:16 am

Ok I will try that and post what I find. Thanks!

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:09 am

I have tried to clean it up. I can see an N pretty clear and it looks like an I in front of it but I can’t see much more yet. If I keep cleaning with the lead pencil will I ever clean to much and rub the letters away?
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:33 am

DMLEATH wrote:
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I have tried to clean it up. I can see an N pretty clear and it looks like an I in front of it but I can’t see much more yet. If I keep cleaning with the lead pencil will I ever clean to much and rub the letters away?
Graphite (aka pencil lead) is a VERY mild abrasive. You’d go through several entire pencils and never remove that much metal. I’m skeptical you’re ever going to reveal much if any more than you have already. Someone may recognize it from what you have revealed. Otherwise it may just be one of life’s mysteries. ::shrug::

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Post by Ridgegrass » Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:55 pm

UNION ? ? ? I've had some small luck wiping off the pencil lead and using a black, red, or green felt tip wiped off gently. A bit of the ink may remain in the stamp. Different angles of light under magnification sometimes helps bring up an image. Good luck. J.O'.

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Post by kootenay joe » Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:03 pm

It definitely is an old knife and i wonder if it might be a Sheffield knife ?
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Post by RobesonsRme.com » Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 pm

It looked British to me, too, Roland.
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Post by Colonel26 » Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:34 pm

I played around with the image some. I can make out some letters, but that’s about it.
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Post by kootenay joe » Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:27 am

RobesonsRme.com wrote:
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It looked British to me, too, Roland.
Thank you Charlie. The older i get, the more i forget so sometimes i wonder if i am out in left field. Well, if i am, it's nice to have some company. :)
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:50 am

Remington I believe!
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Post by kootenay joe » Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:09 am

How did you get the markings to show up so much better than in the first 2 pictures of the tang ?
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:12 am

I met an older gentleman at an auction that collects knives. I took it over this evening to him and he had something like real fine sandpaper and worked on it a bit. The letters started showing up more and more.

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Post by doglegg » Sat Sep 11, 2021 3:14 am

He did a good job.

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:04 pm

Thanks for all your input! I listed this knife on EBay starting at $1 if anyone is interested.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Reming ... 632-2357-0

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by stockman » Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:46 am

Neat old knife probably ???ington. I don’t think it is a Remington. Harold

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by msteele6 » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:48 am

I’ve never seen a Remington stamp like that. A lot of English names end in “ington”. That square kick would make me believe that the knife was made before Remington went into the knife business c. 1920. JMO

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Post by DMLEATH » Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:57 pm

Thanks for that input! I will take it off EBay since I have it labeled as Remington?.

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by 1967redrider » Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:35 pm

One thing is for sure, that cleaning regimen works wonders!

If you went through Goins' book page by page you might be able to narrow it down, then look at old cutlery catalogs to see if you can find this knife being produced by one of the possibilities. Could take some time but you might be able to get something definite, just a suggestion.
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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:48 pm

Thanks for that advice. I need to get me a Goins book.

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Re: Approximate age and Maker of this old Knife?

Post by DMLEATH » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:44 am

I had someone message me that this is a Rivington Works Sheffield England knife. I searched sold items in EBay and I found one in nicer shape that sold a while back and looks like a match to me. Thanks for everyone’s help!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Riving ... 632-2357-0

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