Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

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Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:39 pm

I have an old pocket knife (Wards). It looks like 386 numbers on the back but is dirty and hard to read. I couldn’t find one on EBay but google came up with one on WorthPoint which I don’t have a subscription to. From what I read it was described as made by Western. Can anyone help me with this and confirm that?
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by knifeaholic » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:49 pm

Made by Winchester, as many Wards knives were.

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by FRJ » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:17 am

I have a Wards similar to yours, DMLEATH. The shields different.

I'm showing mine next to a Winchester that seems to have relative features.

I have another Wards but do you think I could find it? Not a dog leg but I wanted to show it off. :mrgreen:

No stamped number on the pile side.

These are great old knives. ::nod::
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:31 am

Thanks to you both! That does look very similar.

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:35 am

Here is a link to the one on Worth Point. The shield looks more like my knife.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/ ... 1811425064

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by hardman » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:50 am

Western made a lot of Fixed Blades and Knife/Axe combos for Montgomery Wards under the name Western Field. But that was Fixed Blades.
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:55 am

I agree with Steve. Looks like a Winchester pattern no. 2974 which is a 3-1/2 inch serpentine jack with clip master, jigged bone covers. What’s the closed length on yours?

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:28 am

Closed length is 3 1/2”. Probably Winchester. Thanks to all!

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:05 am

You all are great and thanks for sharing your knowledge!

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by Gunsil » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:00 pm

According to Levine, many Ward's pocket knives were made by Utica who did make quality folders before WW2.

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by msteele6 » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:03 pm

OP knife no doubt made by Winchester (Walden). JMO.

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by Dan In MI » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:44 pm

Great reading. Now I have an idea as to who made my Wards camp knife. Thanks to all for sharing their knowledge!
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by knifeaholic » Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:56 pm

The Winchester dogleg jack that Joe (FRJ) posted is different, but I believe his to be an earlier Winchester (Napanoch era) based on the bone jigging and on the master blade being in front.

The Winchesters made for Wards are from the later eras, most likely 1930's.

The Wards knives made by Utica are (based on my observations) from after WWII, late 40's to 50's, made on the same tooling/patters as the Kutmaster knives of the era and using Rogers bone for the bone handled patterns.

After that (1960's) Camillus took over, making knives for Wards with the POWR KRAFT tang stamp. These are somewhat scarce, must have only been in production for a short time.

I recall in the late 1970's to early 80's, Montgomery Ward sold Case and Kabar knives.
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:15 pm

Very informative! Thanks everyone!

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:58 am

Does anyone on this forum collect Wards knives and have an interest in this one? I was thinking of putting it on EBay but I wasn’t sure how the most accurate way is to describe it. It seems like the consensus here was generally that this knife was made by Winchester and one felt like it was similar to the Winchester pattern 2974. I know it’s not a high dollar knife. Any input is welcome

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by terryl308 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:27 pm

Nice old knife! It is really hard to put a price on used knives, depends on condition a lot. If you put it on ebay, take good close up and in focus photos of every position and start a low 7 or 5 day auction and see what happens. I would think it should be worth 25 to 100 bucks but that is just a wild guess. Be sure to mention any faults along with the good points. good luck ::tu:: Terry
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by richard » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:20 pm

I HAVE THIS ONE STAMPED ULSTER KNIFE CO. WRIGHT & WILLIMY CO. ?
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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Fri Aug 20, 2021 12:15 am

terryl308 wrote:
Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:27 pm
Nice old knife! It is really hard to put a price on used knives, depends on condition a lot. If you put it on ebay, take good close up and in focus photos of every position and start a low 7 or 5 day auction and see what happens. I would think it should be worth 25 to 100 bucks but that is just a wild guess. Be sure to mention any faults along with the good points. good luck ::tu:: Terry
Thanks Terry

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Re: Wards Pocket Knife-made by Western?

Post by DMLEATH » Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:39 am

I listed this on EBay- here is the link
I tried to be accurate in this listing.
If something is incorrect please let me know

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wards- ... 632-2357-0

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