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3 blade whittlers are addictive... Change my mind..

Post by toomanyknives » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Here's my little collection. I have some half-whittlers, but I'm not counting them...
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Post by Dan In MI » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:25 pm

Nice little group of whittlers!
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Post by herbva » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:32 pm

Very nice! I especially like the ones with a wharncliffe and a coping blade. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Post by New_Windsor_NY » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:35 pm

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Here's.....
A VERY nice family of whittlers you have there, Kerry. ::tu:: ::tu::
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Post by kennedy knives » Thu Jul 29, 2021 11:18 pm

Nice Whittlers ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Are you going to Dalton???

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Post by toomanyknives » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:19 am

Dan In MI wrote:
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Nice little group of whittlers!
Thanks Dan!

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Post by toomanyknives » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:20 am

herbva wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:32 pm
Very nice! I especially like the ones with a wharncliffe and a coping blade. ::tu:: ::tu::
Thanks Herb! Those are Case Seahorse whittlers...

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New_Windsor_NY wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:35 pm
toomanyknives wrote:
Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:43 pm
Here's.....
A VERY nice family of whittlers you have there, Kerry. ::tu:: ::tu::
Post them here also:
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Thanks Skip! Will do, a few of them are vintage...

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Post by toomanyknives » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:24 am

kennedy knives wrote:
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Nice Whittlers ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Are you going to Dalton???
Thanks Gary! I wish I could, but I'm afraid I can't leave mom for that long. She will be 100 in November!
I have to do a lot of things that my wife can't do for her, so I'm gonna' have to pass.

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Post by Modern Slip Joints » Fri Jul 30, 2021 2:48 am

You must be particularly fond of Seahorse Whittlers. Not counting the 3 Camillus Whittlers because they are stockmans, four out of the seven that you are showing are Seahorse Whittlers. When I started collecting the Seahorse Whittler's master blade and handle shapes looked so odd that I never considered buying one. Since I now have even odder knives and I like whittlers I should try one. As far as I know they are all 3 blade split backs. That is good. Have they been made recently?

Nice whittlers.

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Post by toomanyknives » Fri Jul 30, 2021 4:11 am

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You must be particularly fond of Seahorse Whittlers. Not counting the 3 Camillus Whittlers because they are stockmans, four out of the seven that you are showing are Seahorse Whittlers. When I started collecting the Seahorse Whittler's master blade and handle shapes looked so odd that I never considered buying one. Since I now have even odder knives I like whittlers I should try one. As far as I know they are all 3 blade split backs. That is good. Have they been made recently?

Nice whittlers.
Yes sir MSJ, the Seahorse pattern grew on me. I think the wharncliff master blade is a favorite of mine. I find them to be very functional.
I guess I call the 72's whittlers because that's what Camillus called them. I see your point though. And yes, the seahorse whittlers are more
recent knives. They are an old pattern, but the ones I have range from 2013 to 2021. The oldest one in the picture is a Cattaraugus from
the early 1900's from what I can gather.

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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:19 pm

Yes, the Camillus 72 and the Schrade 863 (and others) are neither whittlers nor stockmans, but they are sure nice knives. Sometimes that pattern has been called a carpenter's knife, I believe. CASE made a pen knife which apparently they called a half whittler and by now collectors are calling all manner of pen knives half whittlers. They are certainly nothing of the kind because a half whittler is physically impossible if one subscribes to the classic definition of a whittler. Similar idiocy might be a half moose. As long as one is talking about the CASE pen knife I would reluctantly accept the company's name for it, but not any other pen knife. A half congress is a legitimate moniker. All that aside, the whittler in all its legitimate forms (with and without wedged springs, and sometimes with three springs) is a wonderful collectible and using knife as well. Thanks for a great thread!

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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:22 pm

Here is an odd duck, a whittler cattle knife.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:24 pm

The bottom knife is a whittler stockman.
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Post by peanut740 » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:07 pm

Nice knives Cal!👍
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Post by bighomer » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:17 pm

So I guess this is a 3/4 congress whittler, who knew, is a 6 blade congress a congress and a half? Inquiring minds want to know. Personally I think half has no business being used in knife normclature. But that's just me YMMV. Beautiful knives by the the way.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:20 pm

This is a three spring, no wedges. Some purists would not like it. I like it.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:22 pm

And, of course, a seahorse.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:32 pm

Another three spring.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:36 pm

Sunday whittler by Boker Germany.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:38 pm

Early Camillus.
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Post by tongueriver » Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:41 pm

Cattaraugus.
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Post by bladecollectorr » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:54 pm

tongueriver wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:24 pm
The bottom knife is a whittler stockman.
Nice pearl! I can't quite make out the tang stamp. Who made that whittler? Remington?
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tongueriver wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 1:19 pm
Yes, the Camillus 72 and the Schrade 863 (and others) are neither whittlers nor stockmans, but they are sure nice knives. Sometimes that pattern has been called a carpenter's knife, I believe. CASE made a pen knife which apparently they called a half whittler and by now collectors are calling all manner of pen knives half whittlers. They are certainly nothing of the kind because a half whittler is physically impossible if one subscribes to the classic definition of a whittler. Similar idiocy might be a half moose. As long as one is talking about the CASE pen knife I would reluctantly accept the company's name for it, but not any other pen knife. A half congress is a legitimate moniker. All that aside, the whittler in all its legitimate forms (with and without wedged springs, and sometimes with three springs) is a wonderful collectible and using knife as well. Thanks for a great thread!
Exactly, Triver! The 72 is called a carpenter's / whittler knife in the 1946 catalog, so I guess it just stuck...I agree the "half whittler" thing is crazy.
Marketing is a wonderful thing, ain't it?
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Post by toomanyknives » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 pm

bighomer wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:17 pm
So I guess this is a 3/4 congress whittler, who knew, is a 6 blade congress a congress and a half? Inquiring minds want to know. Personally I think half has no business being used in knife normclature. But that's just me YMMV. Beautiful knives by the the way.
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Post by Mumbleypeg » Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:22 pm

::stir:: FWIW I don’t believe the term “half whittler” originated from Case. I believe as with many other pattern names (“whittler” included), it originated with collectors. What is called half whittler today was called a “pen” knife in Case catalogs up until a few years ago. But I recall hearing the term “half whittler” at shows in the 1970s. Contrary to popular opinion I don’t think Case marketing can be credited (or blamed) for the name.

Yes I know BRL said it originated from Case Marketing, but if so why did Case catalogs continue to call it a pen long after he said that? And why didn’t they copyright it as they have done with many other patterns? Instead Case finally gave in and began using it in catalogs years after it became a commonplace description for the pattern. Show me evidence of Case using the term “half whittler” anywhere prior to a few years ago. ::shrug::

BTW, isn’t “three blade whittler” redundant? I didn’t know there was any other kind. ::poke::

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Post by toomanyknives » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:17 am

Mumbleypeg wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:22 pm
::stir:: FWIW I don’t believe the term “half whittler” originated from Case. I believe as with many other pattern names (“whittler” included), it originated with collectors. What is called half whittler today was called a “pen” knife in Case catalogs up until a few years ago. But I recall hearing the term “half whittler” at shows in the 1970s. Contrary to popular opinion I don’t think Case marketing can be credited (or blamed) for the name.

Yes I know BRL said it originated from Case Marketing, but if so why did Case catalogs continue to call it a pen long after he said that? And why didn’t they copyright it as they have done with many other patterns? Instead Case finally gave in and began using it in catalogs years after it became a commonplace description for the pattern. Show me evidence of Case using the term “half whittler” anywhere prior to a few years ago. ::shrug::

BTW, isn’t “three blade whittler” redundant? I didn’t know there was any other kind. ::poke::

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Post by knife7knut » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:27 am

Mumbleypeg wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:22 pm

BTW, isn’t “three blade whittler” redundant? I didn’t know there was any other kind. ::poke::

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Without starting an,"excrement downpour" I believe there has always been some discussion(mostly among purists)as to what actually constitutes a ,"true whittler".Aside from whether the master blade is a Wharncliffe or spear or clip pattern,supposedly a true whittler will contain a coping and pen blade as secondaries.If one contains a manicure/file blade it is not considered a "true" whittler.
The"congress" thing is a whole other bunch of worms trying to get out of the can. ::dang::
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Mumbleypeg wrote:
Fri Jul 30, 2021 11:22 pm
::stir:: FWIW I don’t believe the term “half whittler” originated from Case. I believe as with many other pattern names (“whittler” included), it originated with collectors. What is called half whittler today was called a “pen” knife in Case catalogs up until a few years ago. But I recall hearing the term “half whittler” at shows in the 1970s. Contrary to popular opinion I don’t think Case marketing can be credited (or blamed) for the name.

Yes I know BRL said it originated from Case Marketing, but if so why did Case catalogs continue to call it a pen long after he said that? And why didn’t they copyright it as they have done with many other patterns? Instead Case finally gave in and began using it in catalogs years after it became a commonplace description for the pattern. Show me evidence of Case using the term “half whittler” anywhere prior to a few years ago. ::shrug::

BTW, isn’t “three blade whittler” redundant? I didn’t know there was any other kind. ::poke::

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Post by knife7knut » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:40 am

Here is a buncha whittlers from my accumulation. Some may have a broken blade or two(are those 2/3rds whittlers?)but I still like them.
#1 A.Field & Sons Progress with a manicure secondary blade.
#2 Capital Cutlery Germany with sterling silver handles.
#3 Harrison Bros. & Howson.
#4 Humason & Beckley with sterling silver handles.
#5 Geo. Wostenholm Celebrated Cutlery with well sharpened blades,ivory handles and a shield dated 1870.The small blade I believe is used to trim cigars and is full size.
#6 Master blade stamped J.A.Henckels and the two secondaries I*XL with one stamped,"C.Langbein NY"on the pile side.Langbein was a knife repairman as well as a distributor so this was likely one of his jobs.
#7 Another I*XL with a manicure secondary blade.
#8 An I*XL with popcorn stag handles.
#9 New York Knife Co. with ivory handles.
#10 Peters Bros with two broken blades(a 1/3rd whittler maybe?)and an eagle motif on the handles. The other side is a field of stars.Likely made right after WWI.
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Post by knife7knut » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:49 am

A few more........
#1 Remington with a tipped manicure blade.
#2 Robeson frame with I*XL blades.I transposed them because the Robeson blades were all broken and the I*XL handles were junk.
#3 Schrade-Walden with purse in like new condition.
#4 Simmonds Hardware with ivory handles.
#5 Ulster with ivory handles and purse.
#6 Ulster with pearl handles.
#7 Ulster with pearl handles and tip bolsters.
#8 Union Cutlery Tidioute PA
#9 Unmarked whittler with gold covers on bolsters;engraving washed in gold and screws for blade pivots.
#10 Utica whittler with bail.
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Here are a few of my favorite 3 blade whittler.
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Post by knife7knut » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:05 am

Last few:
#1 Vom Cleff with stag handles and broken blade.
#2 Wahkonsa Cutlery.
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knife7knut wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:49 am
A few more........
#1 Remington with a tipped manicure blade.
#2 Robeson frame with I*XL blades.I transposed them because the Robeson blades were all broken and the I*XL handles were junk.
#3 Schrade-Walden with purse in like new condition.
#4 Simmonds Hardware with ivory handles.
#5 Ulster with ivory handles and purse.
#6 Ulster with pearl handles.
#7 Ulster with pearl handles and tip bolsters.
#8 Union Cutlery Tidioute PA
#9 Unmarked whittler with gold covers on bolsters;engraving washed in gold and screws for blade pivots.
#10 Utica whittler with bail.
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Post by toomanyknives » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:39 am

Sharpnshinyknives wrote:
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Here are a few of my favorite 3 blade whittler.
Some real beauties there, Mark! ::tu::

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Post by kootenay joe » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:59 am

Here is a 3 1/2" Henckels made whittler with saber ground master blade.
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Post by eveled » Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:36 am

I grew up with a 3 blade whittler in my pocket, but for actual whittling once I tried a Loom Fixer I never looked back. You asked us to “change your mind”.

The LM has fewer hot spots, the wider handle doesn’t want to roll over in your hand while cutting like the slender whittler pattern. So you don’t have to grip as hard causing less fatigue. The large sheepsfoot master great for big cuts to remove material fast, and the tip is great for making stop and back cuts if you are outlining letters on a sign or just carving your initials.

The secondary pen blade is actually a pretty substantial blade in its own right is great for detail work.
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kootenay joe wrote:
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Here is a 3 1/2" Henckels made whittler with saber ground master blade.
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Boy kj, there's a whittler to be proud of! That's fantastic! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::

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stagman wrote:
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stays in my travel bag with a few others...

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I grew up with a 3 blade whittler in my pocket, but for actual whittling once I tried a Loom Fixer I never looked back. You asked us to “change your mind”.

The LM has fewer hot spots, the wider handle doesn’t want to roll over in your hand while cutting like the slender whittler pattern. So you don’t have to grip as hard causing less fatigue. The large sheepsfoot master great for big cuts to remove material fast, and the tip is great for making stop and back cuts if you are outlining letters on a sign or just carving your initials.

The secondary pen blade is actually a pretty substantial blade in its own right is great for detail work.
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Those are beauties, eveled! You make good points. I can see how they could have me starting another pattern to collect!

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Re: 3 blade whittlers are addictive... Change my mind..

Post by eveled » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:52 pm

Thanks. Try one you’ll never look back. Lol.

Colonel26 led me down the primrose path to LoomFixer addiction. This is an interesting thread with a lot of great pictures.

https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kn ... =LoomFixer

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Re: 3 blade whittlers are addictive... Change my mind..

Post by doglegg » Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:01 pm

toomanyknives wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:53 pm
kootenay joe wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:59 am
Here is a 3 1/2" Henckels made whittler with saber ground master blade.
kj
Boy kj, there's a whittler to be proud of! That's fantastic! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Totally Agree.

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