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Post by sanford05@twc.com » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:28 pm

I have a 1940 to 64 Case XX Muskrat. The old pocket worn redbone is pristine through out. In 1993 owner sent knife to Case to have blades replaced as they were accidentally ruined. The blade stamp casexx USA 1993 CV. the blades have not been used. How to people determine a knife value in a case like this? Thanks.

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Re: knife value

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:34 pm

Welcome to AAPK. It is difficult to place a value on a knife like that as it’s not original, and will be near impossible to find comparable knives that have sold, from which a value could be estimated. Having the blades replaced by Case probably helps some (especially if there is documentation to certify Case did the work), but the blades used in 1993 are different from what came on the knife originally. Case didn’t use “pocket worn” bone in the XX era so that wear likely won’t help either. Sorry I can’t help more but that’s my thoughts for what it’s worth.

Condition is paramount in collectable knife values, so pictures of the knife would be helpful.

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Post by OLDE CUTLER » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:35 pm

Any expert opinions given would be based on seeing pictures of the knife. Show both sides of knife with blades open, and CLEAR close up pictures of the tang stamp.
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Re: knife value

Post by OLDE CUTLER » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:38 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:34 pm
Welcome to AAPK. It is difficult to place a value on a knife like that as it’s not original, and will be near impossible to find comparable knives that have sold, from which a value could be estimated. Having the handle covers replaced by Case probably helps some (especially if there is documentation to certify Case did the work), but the bone used in 1993 is different from what came on the knife originally. Sorry I can’t help more but that’s my thoughts for what it’s worth.

Condition is paramount in collectable knife values, so pictures of the knife would be helpful.

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Ken, he said the blades were replaced.
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Re: knife value

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:41 pm

OLDE CUTLER wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:38 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:34 pm
Welcome to AAPK. It is difficult to place a value on a knife like that as it’s not original, and will be near impossible to find comparable knives that have sold, from which a value could be estimated. Having the handle covers replaced by Case probably helps some (especially if there is documentation to certify Case did the work), but the bone used in 1993 is different from what came on the knife originally. Sorry I can’t help more but that’s my thoughts for what it’s worth.

Condition is paramount in collectable knife values, so pictures of the knife would be helpful.

Ken
Ken, he said the blades were replaced.
I corrected my post - knew he said blades but for some reason I wrote bone when I was thinking blades - had a brain fart when I wrote the reply. ::dang::

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Re: knife value

Post by OLDE CUTLER » Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:48 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:41 pm
OLDE CUTLER wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:38 pm
Mumbleypeg wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:34 pm
Welcome to AAPK. It is difficult to place a value on a knife like that as it’s not original, and will be near impossible to find comparable knives that have sold, from which a value could be estimated. Having the handle covers replaced by Case probably helps some (especially if there is documentation to certify Case did the work), but the bone used in 1993 is different from what came on the knife originally. Sorry I can’t help more but that’s my thoughts for what it’s worth.

Condition is paramount in collectable knife values, so pictures of the knife would be helpful.

Ken
Ken, he said the blades were replaced.
I corrected my post - knew he said blades but for some reason I wrote bone when I was thinking blades - had a brain fart when I wrote the reply. ::dang::

Ken
Sorry, I was typing as you did that. If the knife is a 1940 to 1964 XX that has had the blades replaced, then it is no longer a 1940 to 1964 knife. I wonder how the original blades both got ruined?
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Re: knife value

Post by kootenay joe » Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:55 pm

It is no longer a 'collectible' knife, or, does not have the value of a collectible knife. It could be sold as a good knife to carry & use.
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Post by QTCut5 » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:18 pm

I agree with Roland, i.e., not original = not collectible. Doesn't mean it has no value, just not the same value that an original knife would have.

My advice: keep it, carry it and use it...that's where your best value is right there. ::tu::
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Re: knife value

Post by sanford05@twc.com » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:30 pm

Thanks everyone. You've been a big help. I did figure that collector value would be practically nothing.

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Re: knife value

Post by knifeaholic » Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:41 pm

If the handles are good, the knife still has some value. If the handles have issues, the value is mainly as a user.

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Post by kootenay joe » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:04 pm

knifeaholic wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:41 pm
If the handles are good, the knife still has some value. If the handles have issues, the value is mainly as a user.
Steve, can you please explain why this knife "has some value" ? Are there Case collectors who would want it just because of the old Case XX handles ? A knife mechanic could put the correct blades in it and then try to sell it as "all original".
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Re: knife value

Post by knifeaholic » Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:38 pm

kootenay joe wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:04 pm
knifeaholic wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 9:41 pm
If the handles are good, the knife still has some value. If the handles have issues, the value is mainly as a user.
Steve, can you please explain why this knife "has some value" ? Are there Case collectors who would want it just because of the old Case XX handles ? A knife mechanic could put the correct blades in it and then try to sell it as "all original".
kj
Yes I have sold many decent frames with worn blades, mechanics will try to find better blades and install them.

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Post by btrwtr » Mon Apr 05, 2021 3:31 pm

There is always a utility value in any knife that still functions and this is where the value of any knife is based priced. Any collectible value adds a premium to the knife. I would say that this knife would be valued as a using knife or at utility value. Value for parts or and collectible aspect would be based on pictures provided and like most values subjective.
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Re: knife value

Post by herbva » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:18 pm

sanford05@twc.com wrote:
Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:28 pm
I have a 1940 to 64 Case XX Muskrat. The old pocket worn redbone is pristine through out. In 1993 owner sent knife to Case to have blades replaced as they were accidentally ruined. The blade stamp casexx USA 1993 CV. the blades have not been used. How to people determine a knife value in a case like this? Thanks.
Welcome to AAPK Sanford05! The Case Muskrat pattern is one of the very popular Case patterns, particularly the earlier ones like the XX (yours), Tested, and earlier, (if this pattern was made earlier). Yes, any replaced parts will diminish value significantly, but, as the qualified experts have already said, there is still value and demand as long as you are careful to clearly and completely explain everything that has been done to the knife. For example, one of the knives I have for sale on ebay this week is an XX Muskrat, that had OK (not great) blades and frame and badly broken bone scales on both sides. I replaced the scales, cleaned the parts up, and have it for sale now. If you check the following link, you will see there is at least some interest. I hope this helps, and best regards. Herb

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133709181962
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Re: knife value

Post by Dan In MI » Tue Apr 06, 2021 5:54 am

If there is paperwork to prove that the blades were replaced by Case, then it definitely has a place as a carry knife. That is exactly what I'd do with it.
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