Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

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Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by New_Windsor_NY » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:37 am

This is one pocket knife out of a group of nine that I purchased (not for this particular one).
There are absolutely NO markings of any kind, anywhere on it.
It appears that the punch/awl is "reinforced" at the tang.
It measures 3 3/8" closed.
So, who made this cattleman pocket knife?
Thank you. ::tu::

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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knife7knut » Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:23 am

I went through my accumulation of scout/utility knives and the only ones I saw with that type of punch blade were old solid bolster Imperials.Don't recall ever seeing an Imperial with ebony handles before but I suppose it is possible.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by Reverand » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:06 am

I have a Gamble Stores cattleman's knife with a similar reinforced punch. It was made by Camillus.
This is not definitive by any definition, but so far it is the only punch that I have seen that was built that way.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by FRJ » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:16 am

Those covers look like some sort of composite material to me.
That sheepfoot sure got taken down without any real sharpening.
I believe I have a reinforced punch on a knife ........ somewhere.

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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knifeaholic » Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:45 am

Reverand wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:06 am
I have a Gamble Stores cattleman's knife with a similar reinforced punch. It was made by Camillus.
This is not definitive by any definition, but so far it is the only punch that I have seen that was built that way.

Funny I was going to mention Gamble Stores...I have seen and owned a number of knives marked GAMBLE STORES And they have all been in that exact same cattle pattern, with a variety of handle colors.

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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by New_Windsor_NY » Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:43 pm

FRJ wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:16 am
Those.....
Hi Joe. I agree, I don't believe the handles to be ebony
or any other natural material. If you look at the 2nd
picture, left corner, you can see a white spot where
the handle was "dinged." But what the material is, l
don't know for sure. ::shrug::
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knife7knut » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:13 pm

The reason I feel that it is ebony or some other type of dark wood is upon enlarging the pictures I see tiny lines running parallel to the length of the handle that appear to be cracks starting.Synthetic materials are usually perfectly smooth and when they crack it penetrates all the way through usually. The "white" spot looks like something may have been spilled onto the handle and stained it. JMHO folks;your mileage may vary.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by peanut740 » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:46 pm

I think they are comp also.I have had several that have had the same look.There also is what appears to be some small amount of shrinkage.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by New_Windsor_NY » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:18 am

peanut740 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:46 pm
I.....
Roger, it might be the angles that I took the pictures,
but I can assure you, there is NO handle shrinkage.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by New_Windsor_NY » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:31 am

knife7knut wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:13 pm
The.....
Ray, you were correct. ::tu::
I removed that white spot with my fingernail.
The other "spot" that is to the right of the center pin,
is a tiny "hole", like the two tiny "holes" near the top pin.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knife7knut » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:55 am

New_Windsor_NY wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:31 am
knife7knut wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:13 pm
The.....
Ray, you were correct. ::tu::
I removed that white spot with my fingernail.
The other "spot" that is to the right of the center pin,
is a tiny "hole", like the two tiny "holes" near the top pin.
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I think the two "holes" you mention were created by whatever they used to set the pins in the handle.The last picture you posted reinforces my belief that they are made of wood.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by New_Windsor_NY » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 am

knife7knut wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:55 am
I.....
Thank you.🍻
But, who manufactured the knife?
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knife7knut » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 am

New_Windsor_NY wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:49 am
knife7knut wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:55 am
I.....
Thank you.🍻
But, who manufactured the knife?
I think the clue is the two piece punch blade.I have seen some Colonial made knives that used this method on other blades but they were small knives.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by knife7knut » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:31 am

knife7knut wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:59 am

EDIT: I think I have found the answer! Looking through my accumulation of official and non-official scout knives I finally found a punch blade with the two piece construction and the correct shape.It is a solid bolster Imperial likely from the 1930's. Here are some pictures.

I think the clue is the two piece punch blade.I have seen some Colonial made knives that used this method on other blades but they were small knives.
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Re: Cattleman Pocket Knife Made By ???

Post by Reverand » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:01 am

So multiple manufacturers made a reinforced tang on their punch blade. I knew it couldn't be that easy!
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