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Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:43 pm

W&L
New York
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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by Gunsil » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:41 pm

Probably a retailer's mark, not a manufacturers mark. There were so many retailer's marks and many were short lived, there are myriads of knives whose marks are unknown. Any marks on the broken blade?

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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:55 pm

Colquhoun and Cadman Sheffield
A. Cross? Glasgow

Was able to find plenty of info on Colquhoun and Cadman
however, havent been able to track down anything in regards to the secondary stamp. Any help would be warmly welcomed..
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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:55 pm

Gunsil wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:41 pm
Probably a retailer's mark, not a manufacturers mark. There were so many retailer's marks and many were short lived, there are myriads of knives whose marks are unknown. Any marks on the broken blade?
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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:56 pm

Just has the same mark as the primary blade.

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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:02 pm

The knife is, seemingly, foreign.
I am, admittedly, at a loss.
Help would be received gratuitously.
Thanks!
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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:04 pm

Looks like Arabic to me. ::shrug::

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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:10 pm

Gorgeous German locking knife. It appears to be marked
"H. Judsons Keenedge"
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This picture is of one listed on eBay. Its in better condition but, otherwise, identical... Aside from it being of a different maker.
This picture is of one listed on eBay. Its in better condition but, otherwise, identical... Aside from it being of a different maker.
Like my knife, the one on eBay appears to only be marked on the secondary blade.
Like my knife, the one on eBay appears to only be marked on the secondary blade.

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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by knife7knut » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:38 am

The green handled tuxedo in the first picture I believe is W&B which may be either Wester & Butz or Wester Brothers.The latter had offices in New York so it is likely them. They were in business from 1904-1967 according to Goins.
There is a T.R.Cadman listed in Goins as being in business from 1870 -1947.Not sure if it the same person.
The knife with the Arabic cyphers is probably either made for the Middle Eastern market or possibly made by an English territory of the era as the square kick looks definitely English.
The large German folder I have nothing on. Some great knives though;hope you can find out more information and share it here.
EDIT: The bolsters on the last knife I've seen on folders made in Austria,Germany,& Czechoslovakia on turn of the century(20th)knives.
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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by michaelspayth » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:07 am

knife7knut wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:38 am
The green handled tuxedo in the first picture I believe is W&B which may be either Wester & Butz or Wester Brothers.The latter had offices in New York so it is likely them. They were in business from 1904-1967 according to Goins.
There is a T.R.Cadman listed in Goins as being in business from 1870 -1947.Not sure if it the same person.
The knife with the Arabic cyphers is probably either made for the Middle Eastern market or possibly made by an English territory of the era as the square kick looks definitely English.
The large German folder I have nothing on. Some great knives though;hope you can find out more information and share it here.
EDIT: The bolsters on the last knife I've seen on folders made in Austria,Germany,& Czechoslovakia on turn of the century(20th)knives.
Great info! Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I'll try to get some different angled photos to see if the "L" on that green tuxedo could actually be a "B." I have a Wester Brothers straight razor that seems to be of pretty good quality so would be cool to find out that the knife was made by that same company.
Will definitely continue to update if, and, when any new info surfaces. Thanks again!

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Re: Still having trouble with info on these makers!

Post by beresman » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 pm

I have a knife that I posted here some time back, which has what appears to be Arabic writing. I tried cross-checking it with various alphabets (Arabic, Urdu, etc.) in Wikipedia and couldn't find anything that seemed to be a direct match. However, a couple of the characters on your knife perfectly match a couple of characters on mine (just above "file Steel"). I don't know what that means, but I'm double curious now.

The knife I have is rather corroded, but the tang stamps on it are in English rather than Arabic (or whatever that language is). So yours is even more interesting in that regard. Frankly, I'm a little jealous :mrgreen: --if you ever decide you no longer want that knife, I'd be interested--I'm putting together a collection of folders from around the world, and even if I don't know for sure where it came from, I'd love to make it part of the display.

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