Help with Age/Handles 3 Camillus Folders

[kootenay joe]

Here are 3 Camillus knives that i would like help to date and help to ID handle material on 2 of them.
Camiilus #20, Muskrat, tang: "Camillus/New York/USA" with short line under "Camillus". The synthetic handles have shrunk so they are not Delrin and knife should be pre 1960. I doubt handles are celluloid as there is no corrosion of the steel.
Camillus S702, a Rope knife with Can Opener secondary. Tang is marked: "Camillus/Stainless/USA", no line under Camillus. These synthetic handles have shrunk a lot but again no signs of corrosion on steel or brass so likely not celluloid.
Camillus #69, with bone handle that has been 'customized' with cross hatching. Tang is: "Camillus/New York/USA" with a long line under Camillus.

I would like to know approximate years of production for each of these 3 knives and what the black synthetic handles are made of, even it is even known.
thanks, kj

[kootenay joe]

No replies yet so i am replying to myself
I know there are charts giving dates for various tang markings but i think that this is only part of dating a knife. A run of blades might have been made, put into a bin and taken out as needed when a specific pattern was being 'run' which could be years after the blade was made & stamped. Certain more rare patterns, ones like this 2 blade stainless Rope knife were probably only made for a short period of time.
Also some handle materials were used only for a short period of time. I think this could be the case for the Muskrat & Rope knives. They are some pre-Delrin plastic, but not celluloid.
I would like to hear from some of the 'dedicated' Camillus collectors as to their thoughts on age of these 3 knives.
thanks, kj

[Meridian_Mike]

I don't have a clue about the YOM on any of them BUT, I must say... I LIKE the rope knife! Very cool to see a can opener for a secondary blade.

[carrmillus]

............short line-1914-1941, long line not sure of dates!!........can't get to my "goin's" right now!!.......... ................................

[kootenay joe]

Thank you carr. Have you owned any Camillus knives with these handles that shrink so much ?
kj

[Vit_213]

Here are 3 Camillus knives that i would like help to date and help to ID handle material on 2 of them.

The first two knives were made in the late 40s - mid 50s. The handle material was called plastag or stagged.
The third knife was made in the late 50s - mid 60s. It's a shame that some idiot ruined his handle.

[kootenay joe]

Thanks Vit_. That's the info i was looking for.
The bone #69 has been used so i don't see the attempt at file work on the handle as "ruining" the knife. It would be a good one to carry and use.
kj

[kootenay joe]

I don't have a clue about the YOM on any of them BUT, I must say... I LIKE the rope knife! Very cool to see a can opener for a secondary blade.

Thanks Mike. This knife is a good candidate for some skilled knife person to re-handle. The GEC "Beer Scout" knives are now selling in the $700 range and here you could have a "Can Opener Scout' for just a few dollars.
kj

[carrmillus]

Thank you carr. Have you owned any Camillus knives with these handles that shrink so much ?
kj

..........never!!!........... ..................

[carrmillus]

.....wish I could post pictures of my take-apart 4 line rogers bone hobo knife!!.......someone posted some years ago, jerry d, I think, but I have no idea where???.............. ........................