Unique Military Jacket

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Unique Military Jacket

Post by raincrowe » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:30 pm

I was able to purchase what Iooks like a WWII Flying Tiger Air Force bomber jacket....At first I was thinking it could be knock off
after looking and researching I still don't know... I found where one sold in 2012..This jacket is in excellent condition tan colored leather along with 5 patches and a map of United States inside...The jacket is made in Korea... by Phase2... size 44....
Patches include:
Flying Tiger
Ace & Jack 509 TAC FTR SQ
Red wing on pocket
Two others on the sleeves
I would appreciate any information on this Jacket thanks in advance




https://www.icollector.com/WWII-Flying- ... _i12109774
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by dlr110 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:14 pm

Sir, I'm not an expert but if this jacket or any military issue clothing item is real it should have a tag in it with the "Mil Spec" number. Also I had several navy flight jackets and none of them had a printed pattern on the inner lining. The patches may very well be the real deal, but I would verify that the jacket was military issue.
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Steve Warden » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:30 pm

I'm with David.
I was issued several jackets over my 20 year Air Force career, and all had a tag similar to

JACKET, EXTREME COLD WEATHER
MIL-SPEC 1234-567
SIZE: L

I, personally, wouldn't classify that as an authentic WWII military issue.

But that's me, and I've been wrong before.
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Gunsil » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:36 pm

I am sorry to say, that is a "fantasy" item. There are very few surviving FT articles and for any one to have all those patches on it is not really possible. Nothing about it looks real, the leather, the lining, or the patches. Nothing survived in that good of a condition. If you didn't pay a lot, no problemo, you should simply know better. If you paid anywhere near what a real FT jacket would bring you'd better sue to get your money back. Looks like something one would buy in a "Banana Republic" store to try to look cool. I also see the auction estimate was $250-$500, were it a real FT jacket the auction estimate would be ten times that. If a deal sounds too good to be true it usually is.

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by raincrowe » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:49 pm

That's why I ask I'm no expert....I got the jacket for less than $100 so I'm satisfied with it
Are the patches real or are they fake also? ....What do they represent?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Tac ... r_Squadron

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Beavertail » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:54 pm

I don't believe an authentic World War 2 would be made in Korea.
I Googled Phase2 bomber jackets and a lot popped up on EBay.
Hope You didn't pay to much for it, but even if you didn't, I would demand a refund for selling a known reproduction. ::handshake::
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Beavertail » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:56 pm

I see you commented while I was typing.
If You're happy with it all's good! ::handshake::
I have no answer on the patches.

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by raincrowe » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:06 pm

Thanks I had the same thoughts about Korean made and I bought it at reproduction price...Although it looks good and very well made!

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Old Folder » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:32 pm

The label "PHASE 2" is a giveaway to its authenticity.
https://poshmark.com/brand/Phase%202

Like the above AAPK members stated. Military clothing and equipment are identified by a strict inventory procedure, even to this day.
Below is a example of my inclement cold weather hat issued to me in late 1966 / early 1967 at Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota. I still have it.
Funny thing, the wording always seems to be backwards.
The same hat could have easily been issued in the Korean conflict and WWII era. Certainly not required in Vietnam.


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Our Granddaughter and her U.S. Marine husband are both currently on deployment, I will attempt to get some current clothing / equipment pictures from them. (Can't promise that though) ::hmm::
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Steve Warden » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:39 pm

Old Folder wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:32 pm
The label "PHASE 2" is a giveaway to its authenticity.
https://poshmark.com/brand/Phase%202

Like the above AAPK members stated. Military clothing and equipment are identified by a strict inventory procedure, even to this day.
Below is a example of my inclement cold weather hat issued to me in late 1966 / early 1967 at Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota. I still have it.
Funny thing, the wording always seems to be backwards.
The same hat could have easily been issued in the Korean conflict and WWII era. Certainly not required in Vietnam.



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Our Granddaughter and her U.S. Marine husband are both currently on deployment, I will attempt to get some current clothing / equipment pictures from them. (Can't promise that though) ::hmm::
Dan


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Also my parka and mukluks!
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by dlr110 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 9:01 pm

Steve I still have my flight gear also, but I think it shrank over the years! ::shrug::
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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by Gunsil » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:47 pm

raincrowe wrote:
Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:49 pm
That's why I ask I'm no expert....I got the jacket for less than $100 so I'm satisfied with it
Are the patches real or are they fake also? ....What do they represent?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Tac ... r_Squadron

Patches are all fake. Look up real AVG (American Volunteer Group which was the actual designation for Chenault's flyers) patches. They are super rare and VERY pricy and the ones on your jacket are pitiful fakes. You didn't really think you'd get anything real for that price did you??

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by eveled » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:58 pm

It seems like Yoda wrote the descriptions on those patches on the real military issued stuff.

OldFolder. Those are two of the best looking people I’ve ever seen in uniform. You must be very proud. I’ve added them to my prayer list. For a safe deployment.

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by doglegg » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:13 pm

OF, very sweet family. ::nod:: ::nod::

Not about this jacket but would the Flying Tigers have regular issue military garments as they were not associated with the USA at first but were flying for the Chinese? ::shrug::
But it is a cool jacket. Bet it will start conversations when you wear it. ::nod::

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Re: Unique Military Jacket

Post by raincrowe » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:29 pm

I just saw the jacket and bought it I liked the patches and nice leather....I had no idea one way or the other if they were fake....but I guess if they fake Morgan silver dollars, Indian arrowheads, Counterfeit pocket knives and many other items wouldn't be a problem with military memorabilia!!

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