Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

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Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:53 pm

I saw this knife early this morning while cruising the bay.
It looks to me like a palandrome knife....... it's the same on the mark side and the pile side.....
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This is a conundrum.....

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by jxr1197 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:20 pm

Meridian_Mike wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:53 pm
It looks to me like a palandrome knife
A man a plan a canal - ulster 68S.

You can find this one in the '53 catalog here:
https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us ... K-53-4.htm
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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:43 pm

jxr1197 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:20 pm
Meridian_Mike wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:53 pm
It looks to me like a palandrome knife
A man a plan a canal - ulster 68S.

You can find this one in the '53 catalog here:
https://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us ... K-53-4.htm
Yes sir ..... it sure is!
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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by RobesonsRme.com » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:22 pm

Not sure I understand your conundrum. ::shrug::

Have you never encountered a Congress with two sheeps and two pens?

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:29 pm

RobesonsRme.com wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 5:22 pm
Not sure I understand your conundrum. ::shrug::

Have you never encountered a Congress with two sheeps and two pens?

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WOW.... nope this is my first. I had no idea there was such an animal.
Hmmmm....... I just wonder why they would do such a thing.... Is there a special purpose for this knife ????

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by EyeBJoe » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:30 pm

Carl Schlieper and Eye Brand have made several congress models with two sheepsfoot and two pen blades for many years.


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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:36 pm

EyeBJoe wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:30 pm
Carl Schlieper and Eye Brand have made several congress models with two sheepsfoot and two pen blades for many years.

Joe D.
Interesting.....
So.... I still wonder.... why the need for a double set of blades in one knife?

Was it like getting 2 knives in one?

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by knife7knut » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:01 pm

I have a couple of older Bokers in that configuration. Must be a German thing.
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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by peanut740 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:16 pm

Queen and GEC's large Congress' are made that way.
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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:30 pm

knife7knut wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:01 pm
I have a couple of older Bokers in that configuration. Must be a German thing.
peanut740 wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:16 pm
Queen and GEC's large Congress' are made that way.
Hmmmmmm.........
I still think this is an unusual blade complement.... Isn't it?
Ed-jer-kate me.

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:42 pm

Well, I googled and found a little something....
Seems the original design was from the 1880s....

"The Congress knife was originally designed in the 1800's and aptly named for shaping quill pens and whittling."

OK... so the original knives were for shaping the quill pens while a congressman was working and the whittler while he was loafing....LOL.

"However, these days it's a favorite among carpenters and woodworkers because its Coping blades are perfect for scribing/grooving, the Pen blade is good for drilling/notching, and the Spear blade for carving/shaping. This double-hinged pocket knife is produced with many blade configurations, the most popular of which are the 4-blade and 2-blade designs."

SO, maybe the 4 blade complement with 2 sets of the same blade would be a "Traditional Congress"..... maybe??

Just throwing some stuff against the wall to see if anything sticks......

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by KnifeSlinger#81 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:30 pm

In the southern US during the 1800's the congress was fairly popular. It was used for cutting plug tobacco (among other things) and I think I've seen some with ''tobacco knife'' etched or stamped on one of the blades. Lincoln carried a six blade ivory congress and had it with him when he was murdered. I don't know why they have multiple blades that are the same but they are pretty cool.
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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Meridian_Mike » Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:40 pm

KnifeSlinger#81 wrote:
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In the southern US during the 1800's the congress was fairly popular. It was used for cutting plug tobacco (among other things) and I think I've seen some with ''tobacco knife'' etched or stamped on one of the blades. Lincoln carried a six blade ivory congress and had it with him when he was murdered. I don't know why they have multiple blades that are the same but they are pretty cool.
Yes, they are cool....
I just looked my files and I don't have one... I guess I just never went to the trouble to try and find myself one.

This one might be a nice to have..... (If I can snag it)

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by Dinadan » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:28 pm

Meridian_Mike wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:36 pm
Interesting.....
So.... I still wonder.... why the need for a double set of blades in one knife?
I an easily answer half that question. The sheepsfoot is the most useful blade there is: so if you are putting four blades on a knife, why not have two good ones? As for the pen blades ... a lot of folks like symmetry.

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Re: Uh.... is this a production Ulster knife?

Post by philco » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:48 pm

I’ve carried a Congress pattern knife off and on for years. My Boker has two sheepsfoot blades along with one pen and one coping blade. My Canal Street has two sheepsfoot and two pen blades. I agree about the usefulness of the sheepsfoot blade. It’s nice having two so I don’t have to resharpen as frequently.
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