Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

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Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Hoss29860 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:51 pm

Hi I just brought this imperial from a coworker . I've found out it was made in the 1959-1988 time frame by the tang stamp but I don't know much about imperial knifes. I believe it to be a 855 stockmen pattern. Because I'm honestly just guessing its a stockmen due to its shape . so figured somebody here would be able to help me identify it correctly
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Steve Warden » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:57 pm

Sorry I can't help with exact ID, but I do know a Stockman has 3 blades - a clip for the main and a combination of sheepsfoot, spey, pen, or punch.
Most of my stockmans have clip, sheepsfoot and spey.
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:06 pm

The shape of your knife is called "serpentine", which has nothing do with whether or not it is a stockman, although some stockman knives are built on a serpentine frame. The blades determine whether a knife is a stockman pattern. A stockman typically has three blades, one of which is usually a spay blade. The other blades most often include a clip master blade and a sheepfoot or a pen as the other secondary. As with most things cutlery related there are exceptions.

If you can post a picture of the knife with blades open, we can tell what pattern it is. ::tu::

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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby jerryd6818 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:13 pm

What I'm seeing is a shell handle 1956-1988 Imperial (single blade???) serpentine jack that's had the sheet celluloid covers stripped off. Are there more blades your pictures don't show?
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Hoss29860 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:18 pm

jerryd6818 wrote:What I'm seeing is a shell handle 1956-1988 Imperial (single blade???) serpentine jack that's had the sheet celluloid covers stripped off. Are there more blades your pictures don't show?
yes there are a total of three blades here's a picture showing them
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Hoss29860 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:28 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:The shape of your knife is called "serpentine", which has nothing do with whether or not it is a stockman, although some stockman knives are built on a serpentine frame. The blades determine whether a knife is a stockman pattern. A stockman typically has three blades, one of which is usually a spay blade. The other blades most often include a clip master blade and a sheepfoot or a pen as the other secondary. As with most things cutlery related there are exceptions.

If you can post a picture of the knife with blades open, we can tell what pattern it is. ::tu::

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Here's pictures show all blades thanks for your help
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:01 pm

Unusual blade assortment. I'd call it a serpentine pen, but most of those have just two blades. The lack of a spay or sheepfoot precludes it's being a stockman IMHO. Hard to say from your pictures but is it possible the larger of the secondary blades has been reshaped from a spay blade?

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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Hoss29860 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:29 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:Unusual blade assortment. I'd call it a serpentine pen, but most of those have just two blades. The lack of a spay or sheepfoot precludes it's being a stockman IMHO. Hard to say from your pictures but is it possible the larger of the secondary blades has been reshaped from a spay blade?

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Ken I'm not sure if it's been reshaped to me it doesn't look like it to me but then again I'm a newbie to this whole knife collectin thing and have tons of learning to do . ill post up close picture for the more skillful eyes can tell if its been reshaped. But I do want to thank everyone for there help. it means a lot to find a place with helpful members when your a newbie like myself with tons of learning to do
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Re: Any one care to help me out identify this imperial knife

Postby Mumbleypeg » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:30 am

It doesn't appear to be reshaped from what can see into those pictures. I'm no Imperial expert. Maybe someone will recognize it or have some old catalog cuts to compare.

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