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GEC just released the #82 Dixie Possum Skinner that looks ahem ... strangely familiar ::woot:: .

I'm loving the lines of it ... it's a single spring, which presumably will make it even thinner than the slim and trim Case muskrat platform. I don't have many GEC's & those that I have were lowballed off eBay, but I felt compelled to pull the trigger on this one new. In GEC terms, price ($89 /$103) is particularly reasonable even in Northfield trim. Only potential negative is the length ... at 4-1/8", it will likely be relegated to weekend use ... just wish it was about a half inch shorter. Will post a review after it arrives ...
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Couldn't pass it up John. I'm not overly fond of the Muskrat pattern but this Ratcliffe line overwhelms my self control. One in Elderberry should be here tomorrow or Friday
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jerryd6818 wrote:Couldn't pass it up John. I'm not overly fond of the Muskrat pattern but this Ratcliffe line overwhelms my self control. One in Elderberry should be here tomorrow or Friday
Hey Jerry - nice !! I ordered the elderberry as well - reviews I've read says its one of the best red's GEC has done - can't wait to see it in person. I'd be curious to know how many of these were produced - there's a fair amount of buzz about them, but nobody's selling out of them yet. It's not a traditional pattern (although it's pretty close to a hawbaker improved muskrat), so it may not be as "collectible" as the more vintagey traditional knives GEC releases that sell out in no time. Please give us your thoughts when you get your hands on it, thx !
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John, imitation is the best form of flattery. ::nod:: ::nod::
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I see the #82 "Possum Skinner" a muskrat pattern at dealers but i think it is a 2 spring ?
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Lansky1 wrote:
jerryd6818 wrote:Couldn't pass it up John. I'm not overly fond of the Muskrat pattern but this Ratcliffe line overwhelms my self control. One in Elderberry should be here tomorrow or Friday
Hey Jerry - nice !! I ordered the elderberry as well - reviews I've read says its one of the best red's GEC has done - can't wait to see it in person. I'd be curious to know how many of these were produced - there's a fair amount of buzz about them, but nobody's selling out of them yet. It's not a traditional pattern (although it's pretty close to a hawbaker improved muskrat), so it may not be as "collectible" as the more vintagey traditional knives GEC releases that sell out in no time. Please give us your thoughts when you get your hands on it, thx !
The "collectability" of the knife nor the value on the aftermarket hold any sway with me. The pictures of the knife grabbed me and I want one. Of course that doesn't mean the pre-purchase heat will last past the mailbox but that's where I stand now. Catch ya again tomorrow or Friday when it shows up.
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Wow! Those are nice! And just the right size for an edc (firme anyway). Great scores fellers.
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A possum skinner??
Dang, I don't think I would ever want to skin & eat one of those critters.... They look too much like a big rat.

Although, when I was reading a lot of personal accounts of the American Civil War, I did read about those guys actually cooking and eating rats...... SO... Who knows, they might be tasty.... possums AND rats.

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That's a neat pattern! ::tu:: I'll have to add that to my wish list!
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kootenay joe wrote:I see the #82 "Possum Skinner" a muskrat pattern at dealers but i think it is a 2 spring ?
kj
Actually KJ from what I've read on other forums from guys who already have them, they say it's a single spring ... one thing fersure, she's skinny --->
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Description from Ck.net
Maker : Great Eastern Cutlery
Brand : Northfield
Year : 2019
Handles : Elderberry Jigged Bone
Factory ID : 828218
Pattern : Possum Skinner
Pet Name : Dixie
Condition : New/Mint
Blade Steel : 1095
Liners : Brass
Bolsters : Nickel Silver
Blade Type : Clip
# Blades : 2
# Backsprings : 1
Action (1-5) : 2
Spring Pressure : 2.2 lbs
*Pull (1-10) : 5
Closed Length : 4 1/8 inches
Longest Blade : 3 inches
Longest Sharp : 2 3/4 inches
Overall Length : 9 1/2 inches
Weight : 2.3 ounces
Half Stops : No
Factory Box : Yes
Blade Finish : Polished
Country : USA
*Factory Effort : 7
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Thanks Greg. I was at KSF and there is very little description there.
Mike, thanks, picture shows a single spring knife and very skinny too.
The bad thing about this is that i much prefer single spring, 2 blade knives, so now i have to get one. My congratulations to GEC who could have more easily made this as a 2 spring knife, but instead took the challenge of making the superior single spring design.
Single spring Muskrat is a great pattern and this one with the secondary blade being different from the master blade is even better. Home Run !
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p.s., what does CK mean by "Action, 1-5" ? smoothness in arc of blade travel ?
And, "overall effort" 7 out of 10. What does Mike find to be lacking ? Does he post why he deducts points ?
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kootenay joe wrote:Thanks Greg. I was at KSF and there is very little description there.
Mike, thanks, picture shows a single spring knife and very skinny too.
The bad thing about this is that i much prefer single spring, 2 blade knives, so now i have to get one. My congratulations to GEC who could have more easily made this as a 2 spring knife, but instead took the challenge of making the superior single spring design.
Single spring Muskrat is a great pattern and this one with the secondary blade being different from the master blade is even better. Home Run !
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p.s., what does CK mean by "Action, 1-5" ? smoothness in arc of blade travel ?
And, "overall effort" 7 out of 10. What does Mike find to be lacking ? Does he post why he deducts points ?
Roland, here's a quote from Mike from another forum that might help answer your last two questions. He was discussing the LionSteel Otnat but his comment is about his rating in general:

"To me the average knife that any company makes is a 7.5 on my scale; since I don't use fractional numbers it has to be a 7 or 8 if it is right on par".

What I gather from that is that Mike rates the #82 Possum Skinner about average for GEC. When a company like GEC puts out an exceptional knife time after time, "average" is pretty good.
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Thanks Rick. I think his effort scale is misleading especially so because the explanation of 7 being par is not given on the same page as the description. Just posting "overall effort 7" leads one to think there are some 'issues' with the knife. Also as you say, average effort for GEC is very high, all the knives come out pretty well 'just right'. Hence a GEC 7 is likely a very fine knife and better than say a Case 7. Maybe even better than a Case 9, even though a natural assumption would be that a '9' knife is better than a '7' knife.
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I agree. Mike would do well to consider posting his rating scale on each page because without that information visible to everyone, it is indeed misleading.
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Mine just showed up Very nice
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Wow - impressive ! Thx for pics ... color is a nice deep red - really like it. Hows the walk & talk ?
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With all the new possum skinners starting to come in today let me suggest a recipe straight out of Granny Clampetts cookbook! :D
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Here is her recipe:

Roast Possum

Possum is easy to catch. Hit ‘em with a rock or a stick when they’s up a tree and you can have ‘em in your sack afore they knows it. The yellow-bellied goomers is too scared to fight back, and they play dead jest long enough to grab ‘em.

Boil up half a peck ‘o water or more, dependin’ on the size o’ your possum. Dunk the critter in boilin’ water an’ right away pull off his hair n’ scrape ‘em clean. Don’t forgit to cut off his feet, his head n’ his tail! Clean out his innards. Put the possum in a hefty jug o’ cold salty water and let ‘em soak overnight. Change his water the next day and start boilin’ him ‘til his skin lets a fork pop through it easy like. They ain’t no time for cooking possum ‘cause some is tougher than others. When the feller is jest right, dry him off and put ‘em in a bakin’ pan with a bit o’ pot likker (juice left over after cooking greens or other vegetables) ‘n some seasoned salt over his belly. When he is brown ‘n toasty, he is ready for slicin’ and servin’. Back home we fattens possum with ‘simmons (persimmons), and most often we eats him with yams.

Granny’s right, possums are easy to catch, but bear in mind they are scavengers. Once you catch a possum, it is best to grain feed him or fatten him with ‘simmons for about 4 weeks. They paunch the same as most small game, but they do have scent glands, so be careful.

And now for that all important question...What wine do you serve with possum?

I suggest a crisp Pouilly-Fuissé. After all, it is the other white meat.
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I've skint a few possum's but never ate one. Got a natural micrata one underway.
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gsmith7158 wrote:With all the new possum skinners starting to come in today let me suggest a recipe straight out of Granny Clampetts cookbook! :D DSCN4129.jpg

Here is her recipe:

Roast Possum

Possum is easy to catch. Hit ‘em with a rock or a stick when they’s up a tree and you can have ‘em in your sack afore they knows it. The yellow-bellied goomers is too scared to fight back, and they play dead jest long enough to grab ‘em.

Boil up half a peck ‘o water or more, dependin’ on the size o’ your possum. Dunk the critter in boilin’ water an’ right away pull off his hair n’ scrape ‘em clean. Don’t forgit to cut off his feet, his head n’ his tail! Clean out his innards. Put the possum in a hefty jug o’ cold salty water and let ‘em soak overnight. Change his water the next day and start boilin’ him ‘til his skin lets a fork pop through it easy like. They ain’t no time for cooking possum ‘cause some is tougher than others. When the feller is jest right, dry him off and put ‘em in a bakin’ pan with a bit o’ pot likker (juice left over after cooking greens or other vegetables) ‘n some seasoned salt over his belly. When he is brown ‘n toasty, he is ready for slicin’ and servin’. Back home we fattens possum with ‘simmons (persimmons), and most often we eats him with yams.

Granny’s right, possums are easy to catch, but bear in mind they are scavengers. Once you catch a possum, it is best to grain feed him or fatten him with ‘simmons for about 4 weeks. They paunch the same as most small game, but they do have scent glands, so be careful.

And now for that all important question...What wine do you serve with possum?

I suggest a crisp Pouilly-Fuissé. After all, it is the other white meat.

Nice recipe Greg. I have one from my Mom's 1949 New American Cook Book:
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Lansky1 wrote:Wow - impressive ! Thx for pics ... color is a nice deep red - really like it. Hows the walk & talk ?
It's not a nail breaker like some of the GEC . It is smooth opening but tight ,no wobble and nice snap well made would be a pleasure to use . ::groove::
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How do you remove brains without cutting off the head ? And why leave head on for roasting ?
in reference to 1949 cookbook recipe above.
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kootenay joe wrote:How do you remove brains without cutting off the head ? And why leave head on for roasting ?
in reference to 1949 cookbook recipe above.
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Good question, I have always wondered that myself. Maybe a typo. And why leave that skinny little tail on?
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Just out of the mailbox. Very smooth action. Nice snap. Another winner for GEC. ::tu::
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Too bad no stag Possum Skinner. Maybe Northwoods will bring out this pattern with mammoth & giraffe and call it the "De-Lux 'Possum Skinner".
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