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Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby flatbedtruck » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:34 am

I would like to get opinions from the Remington people or anyone else about 2 Remington knives that just ended today. The first one is a R1306 that sold for $1,037.76 and the second one is a R293 that sold for $560.00. I don't think either one of them were genuine or even close to genuine but if some of you could take a look at the closed auctions and let me know what you see I would appreciate it. Thanks

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby RalphAlsip » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:33 am

flatbedtruck wrote:I would like to get opinions from the Remington people or anyone else about 2 Remington knives that just ended today. The first one is a R1306 that sold for $1,037.76 and the second one is a R293 that sold for $560.00. I don't think either one of them were genuine or even close to genuine but if some of you could take a look at the closed auctions and let me know what you see I would appreciate it. Thanks

Are the pictures and links I’m including the same ones that you are referring to?

R293: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292841246644
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This purported R293B is clearly wrong. The handle should be jigged bone as indicated by the “3” in R293 - not stag. The pattern number would be R296 if it were supposed to be stag. FYI, there is no R296 pattern number.


R1306: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F292841250994
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This one is also wrong. The stag is not from the 1920’s. The Bullet shield is not right.

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Postby kootenay joe » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:42 am

Wow !
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Postby doglegg » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:43 am

That is a yeoman's effort Mr RalphAlsip! Hunted down the pics and identified the problem. I am impressed. Good job. ::tu::

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby peanut740 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:51 am

A fool and his money. :shock:
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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby Mumbleypeg » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:13 am

Amazing! Those don't even remotely "look" Remington.

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby pearlroosterman » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:13 am

It is really a shame the way so many are cheated on EBAY. These are two of the worst counterfeits I have ever seen. John
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Postby espn77 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:01 pm

I had sent the seller a message telling him they were not original and explained why. At first he had them listed at a high starting bid with no action then changed it to a low starting bid and the race was on. The question I wonder is who are these people who spend that kind of money and don't know about the knives. Top value at a gun show they might bring $100.

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Postby kootenay joe » Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:19 pm

Quote: "Top value at a gun show they might bring $100"
I don't get it. These are fakes, why would they bring in any money ? Surely at a gun show these would be spotted as fakes ?
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Postby espn77 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:12 pm

kootenay joe wrote:Quote: "Top value at a gun show they might bring $100"
I don't get it. These are fakes, why would they bring in any money ? Surely at a gun show these would be spotted as fakes ?
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Visually they have nice stag to someone that is a gun guy but not a knife guy. Just my opinion.

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby flatbedtruck » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:24 pm

First, Thanks to Ralph for including the pictures and links, my computer skills don't reach that far. Yes, those are the correct ones. What is really strange is this is the 3rd time those same 2 knives have been listed. The first time was back in late October or early November and they each sold for less than $200.00. Then just about 2 weeks ago they were listed again and I sent that seller a message that I was quite sure they were not genuine Remington knives. He said he was listing them for a good friend of his and ended up pulling both of the listings a couple of days later. Now these 2 showed up again and this is what happened. The tang stamps on both of them are so bad I can't understand how they go through like that but they did. Anyway thanks to all for the replies and again thanks for adding the pictures and links.

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Postby Gunsil » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:34 pm

As the great showman P T Barnum supposedly once said, "there's a sucker born every minute".

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby OLDE CUTLER » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:40 pm

And because they sold for as much as they did, the fakes will just keep on coming.
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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby flatbedtruck » Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:41 pm

I just now went back and looked up the first 2 listings. The R1306 ended on Nov 8th and sold for $153.50 and the R293 ended on Nov 10th and sold for $104.25. If you look very closely at both of them you will see they are the same exact 2 knives. If Ralph or anyone wants to add those pictures and links please do so. Maybe some day I will get the kids or grand kids to teach me how to do things like that on the computer. For now the best I can do is give you this info.

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Re: Recent ebay sales ended 12/05/18

Postby stockman » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:14 pm

A couple of ?????? Remingtons The 293 looks to be a real frame and blades from what I can see. If it is a correct on blades, it probably should not have a pattern number as it is a HTT knife. It would be hard to find the bone for this knife, so stag works to fool some. The other knife is just bad.

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