Can yall help me a little with Remington tang stamps??

[Meridian_Mike]

I bought these 2 Remingtons. I was looking at the tang stamp info that I could find on the net. The stamps I can find only go up to 1940. I don't think these 2 knives are that old. BUT... the tang stamps seem to match the old stamps.... What is up with that?
#1

#2

And why does this one have the "R-P" on the tang but the other one doesn't...

Mike

[doglegg]

Not the knife historian but I would have bought those two as well. R_P on a Remington? Surely would not have a reference to Remington Peters, their ammo brand. Anyway, nice old knives.

[Meridian_Mike]

Yep, thanks for the reply.
I was sort of wondering about the R-P stamp too. I know they (whoever) must have been trying to show it was made by "Remington Peters" but then again...... ????
I know some Remingtons were made by Camillus but I don't know how to tell.

Still confused.....

[Gunsil]

Steel pins in nickel bolsters certainly is a flag raiser. Remington never did that in the old days and neither did Camillus when they did the modern "Remington" knives.

[Meridian_Mike]

Steel pins in nickel bolsters certainly is a flag raiser. Remington never did that in the old days and neither did Camillus when they did the modern "Remington" knives.

Yep, I see now... You have a good point there....

Recon these are chinese knock-offs?
(Dang-it)

[Mumbleypeg]

Not sure if this is what you're looking for or not but here goes. Remington ceased production of pocket knives with the advent of WWII. Remington's cutlery operations were sold in 1940 to PAL (a razor blade manufacturer). Remington however retained the rights to their name and at some time later (early 1980s - someone here will know the exact year) contracted Camillus to make a line of authorized reproductions.

These reproductions, copies of the original Remington patterns , have Delrin handles and stainless steel blades, whereas the originals had bone handles and carbon steel blades. The reproductions from Camillus were very well made knives but can be recognized on sight due to the handle and blade material. Camillus also produced several different series of "picture" handled commemoratives for the Boy Scouts, having Remington tang stamps but were not reproductions of originals - Remington never made knives with those handles that I'm aware of.

After the demise of Camillus, Remington authorized Bear to make reproductions of the authorized BSA knives. IMO those were a huge disappointment - poor quality fit and finish and a disgrace to the legacy of Remington.

To summarize, you won't find any original Remingtons made after 1940. The reproductions can be readily distinguished due to materials (Delrin and stainless steel).

Hope this helps.

Ken

[Meridian_Mike]

Thanks Ken... yes that does help tremendously. I am getting a very good lesson here.

SO, these 2 are NOT Remington made even though they have the Remington name and Remington tang stamp.

Now.... can we clear up just who made these 2 I have?
looks like they are leaning toward chinese made, they may need to go in my POS box.

[espn77]

Jmo
#1 is definitely Chinese made fairly recently (2000-present)
#2 could possibly be German made in the 70's but I have no proof of that. If some one said different on it I wouldn't argue. But definitely not older than 70's.

[Meridian_Mike]

Jmo
#1 is definitely Chinese made fairly recently (2000-present)
#2 could possibly be German made in the 70's but I have no proof of that. If some one said different on it I wouldn't argue. But definitely not older than 70's.

10-4...
Dang, I sure held out hope that the first one was the best of the bunch. I was comparing it to some others I have seen here on the forum. Those sneaky chinese didn't put their "made in china" stamp on either of these knives.

SO... as a rule of thumb.... If I see nickel bolsters with steel pins, I can figure they were NOT made in the US.... correct?

Yep, looks like these just might go in my POS bin.... well crap.



German made I might keep but I just don't like any of the china made knives.....
But that's just me....

[tallguy606]

Can't agree on the "no steel pins" in Camillus-made Remington knives. The whole series of 9501-9506 green/yellow handled Remington knives have steel pivot pins, as do other Rems made by Camillus. But the Bullet reproductions by Camillus do not have the visible pins.

[Meridian_Mike]

Can't agree on the "no steel pins" in Camillus-made Remington knives. The whole series of 9501-9506 green/yellow handled Remington knives have steel pivot pins, as do other Rems made by Camillus. But the Bullet reproductions by Camillus do not have the visible pins.

Uhhh... OK, so is there any way to tell who made these knives? I know I am totally confused now. Maybe I just need to shut up until a few more folks see my dilemma and add their $.02.

Going by blade tarnish I would think maybe early 2000 (maybe).
Going by blade wear.... hardly any..... so that period fits again.

[Meridian_Mike]

Well, I have been looking around I can't seem to find any info to help me distinguish between USA made and china made Rems.
One thing for sure....
THIS is a china made Remington......

[Mr. Chips]

I sold a lot of Cammilus/Remingtons when they were being made.
I am pretty sure that both of those knives are US made by Camillus

[Meridian_Mike]

I sold a lot of Cammilus/Remingtons when they were being made.
I am pretty sure that both of those knives are US made by Camillus

I sure was hoping somebody would say that.... Thanks!!

Mike

[cody6268]

I sold a lot of Cammilus/Remingtons when they were being made.
I am pretty sure that both of those knives are US made by Camillus

I sure was hoping somebody would say that.... Thanks!!

Mike

I think so as well. That first knife was given away with a pack of Remington .22 ammo, and was available in its packaging from the bonus pack until relatively recently for about $20 or so.

[AREMINGTONSEDGE]

Hi Mike here’s 2 cents worth...

Both knives were made by Camillus Cutlery in the U.S.A.

The 1st peanut pattern is correct all around. Not real expensive and yes often presented as a give away knife for a bonus gift when you purchased something from modern day Remington.

The second is also correct from Remington’s Earthwood Series. This peanut pattern was produced by Camillus in 1996.

Please see the pics I’ve posted.

[AREMINGTONSEDGE]

Oh...just 1 more cent worth... the pattern stamp on back (R-P) taking an “educated guess” stands as (R)=folding, pocketknife or for me personally, I believe it stands for the Remington name -(P)= Peanut pattern. JMHO

If any other members have knives in this series it’s possible this could be verified by similar stamps on the other knives in this series.

[Meridian_Mike]

WOW... thanks so much for that info. I know I can never know everything about every knife brand but I always enjoy learning about these knives and their background.

Mike