Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

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Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby EyeBJoe » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:51 pm

I am seeking some information on threaded tang type fixed blade knives. This week I unearthed a box long forgotten in my garage that had 5 old Carl Schlieper fixed blade knives. One had a leather ring handle and the rest were stag, but all had varying stages of rust on the blades. Each knife has a threaded tang with what appears to be a brass nut within the butt cap. I think this is fairly common construction on a lot of relatively inexpensive German fixed blades. Is there a special tool that is required to unscrew the nut? I am going to embark on a mission to clean and partially restore the knives and need to disassemble the handles in order to get started. Any information from you fellows would be very much appreciated.

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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby Eye Brand Man » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:23 pm

Yes common construction on German knives of the time as well as American knives notably Marbles. They do make a special tool, but it's not always necessary depending on how tight they are. Sometimes you can use a pair of needle nose pliers to loosen them(You can mod the tips to fit on belt grinder). I made a custom one from an old flat blade screw driver, used a metal bandsaw to mod the tip.
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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby zzyzzogeton » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:40 pm

They are called "split nut drivers" as the nuts are called "split nuts".

You can either make one from a screwdriver as Eye Brand Man said or you can google

split nut driver for sale

and get a bunch of sources

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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby americanedgetech » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:25 pm

You might want to apply some moderate heat before trying to loosen that nut.
I have one that I took apart that had some sort of sealer on the threads like a shellac or similar. It wasn't a LokTite type product because acetone did nothing to remove it from the threads afterwards.

I used a heat gun, and waited until I could see the material bubbling in the nut before I removed it. Prior to using the heat gun I was afraid I was going to deform the brass so I stopped.
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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby kootenay joe » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:56 pm

I cut a notch into the tang of a 7" flat file. These nuts come in a few sizes and tool needs to fit snugly so i need to make 2 more with different size cut out of tang to handle all sizes.
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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby muskrat man » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:14 pm

as others have said, you can easily make your own from the proper sized flat screwdriver or a file by notching it with a dremel tool or bandsaw. it's good to have a set of them if you work on knives a lot so you can properly fit them to the nut just like any other screw driver to avoid buggering things up.
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Re: Threaded Tang on German Fixed Blades

Postby EyeBJoe » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:56 pm

Many Thanks for the replies and suggestions guys. I will start with the modified screwdriver and see where I end up.


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