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I think its a 62087 not sure theres no numbers on the back of blade.I know its a medium serpentine jack. 1979 one dot.
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Something looks odd about that one - what is the closed length?
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The knife measures 3 3/8 I used articles and research in aapk to pull a pattern number and for length 87 pattern matched 3 3/8.I don't know really.first Ive seen with out pattern number for a case.
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It is a 62087 - but it sis a XX era frame with a one dot 79 blade installed. It has a XX era shield and bone handles. For the years of 1970-79, Case made all 62087s in delrin not bone after 1970. It may be a rework or it may have been repaired by Case. The blades look odd, may be from a different pattern.
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In the standard knife collectors guide fifth edition,identification & values.Written by Roy Ritchie & Ron Stewart: Page 611 that from 1940-1965,1965-1970,10dots ,1971-1979.Bone as well besides derlin. From 1980s on Know bone Discription.Yes they did make them just not after 1980 in bone.
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Jamfish,

Pretty sure Case did not use brown "jigged" Delrin in the 1940' to 1964' CASE XX era as you stated. If you have a pic of a CASE XX Delrin handled knife I am sure we would all love to see it. The CASE USA Delrin knives were limited to 1 pattern.
Anyway, doesn't really matter whether or not CASE made a 1979 Bone handled 62087 or just Delrin in that year for the discussion of the knife you posted.
The shield as Steve stated looks to be CASE XX era, 40 to 64'. Odd that there is no pattern number on a knife with a 1979' blade. Could possibly be a factory error but more likely, the blade is from a 1979' knife where the model number was stamped on a secondary blade. Could be wrong on that though. More puzzling to me is the loaction of the nail nick. Compare the nick location on the knife you posted to the following pics. if you look at the stag 1978' 52087 the nick is different than the rest posted but they blade is also different, looks to be a Cal Clip. Also, notice that the 76' thru 78' stag examples in the pic have the model number on the pile side, main blade tang. BTW, the handles looks like Delrin to me. Whatever the story is on this knife, doesn't look or feel right to me.
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Jamfish50 wrote:In the standard knife collectors guide fifth edition,identification & values.Written by Roy Ritchie & Ron Stewart: Page 611 that from 1940-1965,1965-1970,10dots ,1971-1979.Bone as well besides derlin. From 1980s on Know bone Discription.Yes they did make them just not after 1980 in bone.

Regardless of what their book says, Case switched the 62087 from bone to delrin in 1970. None were made in bone at all from 1971-79. And that knife clearly has XX era bone and the XX era tall S shield.
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Jerry;

I agree both blades on the posted knife have an odd appearance and odd proportions for an 087 blade set. I was trying to think of another close pattern that they may have been from but I can't think of one.
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Jamfish,

I realize you posted the knife for verification of the pattern number. In doing so, it appears the knife has been reworked a bit. If you don't mind a reworked knife no big deal. If you do mind or it was advertised incorrectly, that sucks but hopefully not an expensive educational experience.
The knife has some obvious issues to me. In the future or in doubt, post a ebay link on the Counterfiet forum and ask. I don't think anyone here will start bidding against you if it turns out to be a legit knife. Even if they did, beats buying a bogus knife.
Please allow me the liberty of suggesting having more reference material on hand to research such purchases.

After taking another close look at the knife, some additional red flags come to mind in addition to what Steve and I posted. BTW, Steve is way more knowledgable than I am but I know a thing or two.
Steve's comment on the knife are accurate, in my opinion. As I said, looks like Delrin to me (which would further complicate this puzzle) but it sure is not late 1970' bone. I have trouble telling Delrin from bone sometimes, even with the knife in hand, but that is not 1979' bone.
Additionally, look at the width of the blade tangs. Maybe the pics but they both should match. The secondary blade also looks a bit thick from spine to cutting edge for it to be original to the knife. The secondary blade should be parallel to the backspring also. All this is hard to tell without knife in hand so I could be wrong on any points.

Anyway, we are all hoping to help and not pick the knife apart.

Regards, Jerry
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