Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:02 am

What fascinates me is the time it must have taken to make the detailed molds with the tools they had available in those days. Look closely at the scales on that knife. The pattern is pretty random for something man-made. Time seems to have meant very little to the craftsmen of old where time and of course the ubiquitous profit, is the driving force in today's industry.

Mossdancer · Post by **Mossdancer** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:57 am

Found this one today. Anyone have idea of timeline? In the third photo down it appears the diamond was a hand held stamp.

: Russell Hawkbill 004c.jpg (40.14 KiB) Viewed 3009 times

moss

PA Knives · Post by **PA Knives** » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:28 pm

I got this one from Fran, I replaced the handles becuase there wasn't any, the blades are near perfect though. Old PA related knife. Import I would guess. I was hoping someone would comment on the knurls on the tang edge. I haven't ever seen that before on a pocket knife

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri May 20, 2011 11:50 pm

PA Knives wrote:I was hoping someone would comment on the knurls on the tang edge. I haven't ever seen that before on a pocket knife

David,

Those serrations on the bottom of the tang are thumb grooves.

They keep your thumb from slipping, while allowing you to put more pressure on the blade to use the top protrusion, which is called the Spud

gino · Post by **gino** » Sat May 21, 2011 3:20 am

Moss, the tang marking you pictured (curved) is from 1933 to 1941
Great looking knife ::envy::

gino · Post by **gino** » Mon May 23, 2011 12:06 pm

Here is one I picked up this weekend.

Cast Steel knife Co. 1900

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:29 pm

Here is a very rare Pecan Budding knife made by Tina in Germany.

It is made of Walnut wood with brass liners and pins.

This is the first Serpentine one I have seen.

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:31 pm

Dimitri very different , nice find !

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:13 pm

Thanks Paul

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:03 am

PA Knives wrote:I got this one from Fran, I replaced the handles becuase there wasn't any, the blades are near perfect though. Old PA related knife. Import I would guess. I was hoping someone would comment on the knurls on the tang edge. I haven't ever seen that before on a pocket knife

Dimitri is right, they knurls give your thumb a good grip when using the spud, which you are do by pushing with the back edge of the of the blade (the spud).
You can see them clearly if you double click to enlarge this pic of a Schrade Cut Co budding knife. The Schrade Cut Co number is S1354 1/4B. As you can see the black celluloid on this knife needs to be replaced.

You need the knurls to keep your thumb from slipping up the blade edge. I think that is also the reason that on both knives have longer than normal tangs; it gives enough length for a good purchase for your thumb while using the spud to loosen the bark when grafting a bud into the stock. The spud is also used to open the cleft in the stock to insert the scion (the piece being grafted in).

http://www.extension.umn.edu/distributi ... .html#budd
This link will show you how grafting is done. The spud is especially useful in the ‘budding’ and in the ‘cleft graft’ which are explained on this web page.

thegreedygulo · Post by **thegreedygulo** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:44 am

Here's a few old pruners. Top to bottom:

1. H. Boker & Co's Improved Cutlery Hawkbill.

2. Boker Hawkbill (tang stamp is an X with an arrow through it and the letters M & R below that and then has Boker at the bottom). Has a bird's eye top rivet. Circa. 1850 - 1875.

3. H. Boker & Co's Improved Cutlery Farmers Jack or Rooster pattern.

4. H. Boker & Co Solingen Farmers Jack.

5. Another H. Boker & Co Solingen Farmers Jack.

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:49 am

An outstanding selection of old Boker`s

Thanks for posting them

gino · Post by **gino** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:44 am

Great Bokers!!!!! I really like em.

Iron Hoarder · Post by **Iron Hoarder** » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:39 am

I'm really beginning to develop more respect for old Bokers. Those are great!

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:54 pm

Here is a very nice example of an English made pruning knife

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:00 pm

Miller Bro`s wrote:Here is a very nice example of an English made pruning knife

wow ! i love em in that shape

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:11 am

Thanks Paul

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:13 pm

This is a Horticultural knife i just picked up. a Case 2109 budding & grafting gunstock knife . the back spring and bill blade are one piece.

Iron Hoarder · Post by **Iron Hoarder** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:22 pm

Very nice. i didn't know Case ever did one. How old is it?

biglmbass · Post by **biglmbass** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:23 pm

Nice one, Paul. Looks pristine.

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:30 pm

Thanks guys ! it was made between 1940-1964..

Iron Hoarder · Post by **Iron Hoarder** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:50 pm

Mostly Saynor's or Saynor Cook & Ridall with a few other English brands thrown in. Some are advertising knives stamped with a company name or a tourist attraction. All are ivory, wood or bone aside from one plastic one. I figure by the time plastic came in these were on their way out so it is rather rare.

paulsvintage · Post by **paulsvintage** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:08 pm

wow nice collection, thanks for sharing

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:46 pm

Another English Pruning knife.

knifegirl888 · Post by **knifegirl888** » Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:50 pm

Nice looking stag!

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