I have narrowed it down to one of three autos...

[Captain O]

It will be either a Pirahna,

1. "DNA", :
2. "X", or :
3. "Pocket P1". :

Any suggestions? I'm listening.

[1967redrider]

I have a Bodyguard like this one that I really like.

[Captain O]

I have a Bodyguard like this one that I really like.

What about the Bodyguard that appeals to you? Is the blade profile utilitarian, or is it aesthetics? (Perspiring minds want to know)!

[1967redrider]

I have a Bodyguard like this one that I really like.

What about the Bodyguard that appeals to you? Is the blade profile utilitarian, or is it aesthetics? (Perspiring minds want to know)!

CPM S30V blade and the frame shape and color.

[Captain O]

The S30V steel is excellent (but the 154 CPM is a fine steel as well). The "bayonet/stiletto" blade throws me off a bit because it is a tad less versatile than the "drop point" blade of the others.

The DNA is slender (and useful) while the "Pocket P1" is lighter and thinner. Last, (but certainly not least) the "X" is a bit thicker (and thus sturdier). Right now, the "X" is coming in first, the "Pocket P1" is neck-and-neck (because of its featherweight and is amenable to carry and the "DNA" is bringing up the rear.

More input, please.

[Captain O]

I finally "set the hook"... on the Piranha "Pocket". Another great "fish" in the "creel".

[charlesf20]

Do not like the DNA too much. Do like John's Bodyguard.
Beside that X > P1.

[Captain O]

Charles,

Do you appreciate the Bodyguard for "click therapy", or do you have a genuine use for the blade? I like the Bodyguard's looks, profile, and steel. (There is a fun factor with the knife). But is it useful?

Since I have a red-handled "VIrus" and love it to death. I was attracted by its slim profile, "feather" weight, and S30V steel. This was a "home run" in my book for an EDC knife. The Virus has "everything I need and nothing that I don't" for a daily carry knife.

I see the P1 "Pocket" auto along the same lines except that it is 4/10 of an ounce heavier and a tad wider. I strongly considered the "X" but the "Virus" does just about everything the "X" is designed to do. (The "X" is a bit more "tactical" or made as a cutting tool for "larger" chores).

What is it you have against the DNA?

[JDaniels62]

The X seems to be the one I'd choose for myself. I always like it when the knife is sturdier and seem to be more solid. I also like the tactical style it has and if I need it to do something more challenging, it should manage effortlessly. That's my point of view

[Madmarco]

The X seems to be the one I'd choose for myself. I always like it when the knife is sturdier and seem to be more solid. I also like the tactical style it has and if I need it to do something more challenging, it should manage effortlessly. That's my point of view

Hey J.D.! I like your comment and would also like to you to AAPK! Stick around, there's plenty of fun to be had on this forum!

[Captain O]

JD and Marco (you mad Otter, you).

I tend to agree with you both. I think that I will set my sights on the Pirahna "X" as my next auto. The blade and size assure a functional purpose. The only thing that concerns me is the size. If the knife is too big, I'll leave it at home and it won't be in my slacks front pocket. The "Virus" is a great knife and works well. The S30V steel makes the blade perform when needed and holds an edge like a dope fiend holding onto a habit. This knife will be seeing a lot of "pocket time".

I bought the "Pocket" (P1) for the same reasons. Its thinner profile encourages carry. The knife's blade style (and steel) are amenable to most lightweight cutting duties. The blade's low price "sealed the deal".

Welcome, JD and post more often. We have a great deal of fun and lively conversation.

[Madmarco]

JD and Marco (you mad Otter, you).

I tend to agree with you both. I think that I will set my sights on the Pirahna "X" as my next auto. The blade and size assure a functional purpose. The only thing that concerns me is the size. If the knife is too big, I'll leave it at home and it won't be in my slacks front pocket. The "Virus" is a great knife and works well. The S30V steel makes the blade perform when needed and holds an edge like a dope fiend holding onto a habit. This knife will be seeing a lot of "pocket time".

I bought the "Pocket" (P1) for the same reasons. Its thinner profile encourages carry. The knife's blade style (and steel) are amenable to most lightweight cutting duties. The blade's low price "sealed the deal".

Welcome, JD and post more often. We have a great deal of fun and lively conversation.

Another model to consider Capn' would be the Pirahna Prowler or mini Prowler. They're similar to John's Bodyguard but a bit slimmer, and with the 2 sizes you could choose which size suits you better. I can't offer an opinion on blade steel, edge retention, versatility, etc. because I buy my autos or any folder for that matter, strictly for looks and hearing that addictive "crack" during a "click therapy" session. I learn more and more everyday about specs on this forum, but to date they just don't hold much importance for me.

[Captain O]

JD and Marco (you mad Otter, you).

I tend to agree with you both. I think that I will set my sights on the Pirahna "X" as my next auto. The blade and size assure a functional purpose. The only thing that concerns me is the size. If the knife is too big, I'll leave it at home and it won't be in my slacks front pocket. The "Virus" is a great knife and works well. The S30V steel makes the blade perform when needed and holds an edge like a dope fiend holding onto a habit. This knife will be seeing a lot of "pocket time".

I bought the "Pocket" (P1) for the same reasons. Its thinner profile encourages carry. The knife's blade style (and steel) are amenable to most lightweight cutting duties. The blade's low price "sealed the deal".

Welcome, JD and post more often. We have a great deal of fun and lively conversation.

Another model to consider Capn' would be the Pirahna Prowler or mini Prowler. They're similar to John's Bodyguard but a bit slimmer, and with the 2 sizes you could choose which size suits you better. I can't offer an opinion on blade steel, edge retention, versatility, etc. because I buy my autos or any folder for that matter, strictly for looks and hearing that addictive "crack" during a "click therapy" session. I learn more and more everyday about specs on this forum, but to date they just don't hold much importance for me.

Marco,

Permit me to elucidate:

<img src="https://www.bladehq.com/images/Knife%20 ... hart-b.png" alt="CPM-S30V Knife Steel Chart"/>

The edge retention and corrosion resistance are better with this SPM-S30V (premium steel


and,

<img src="https://www.bladehq.com/images/Knife%20 ... hart-b.png" alt="CPM-154 Knife Steel Chart"/>

These are the steels offered in the Pirahna line. While the CPM-S30V steel is in the "upper range" of knife steels, CPM-154 is no slouch. CPM-154 is considered a "mid-range" steel. As a "daily driver" (EDC) knife steel either steel performs very well. I prefer carrying blade steel that doesn't require frequent sharpening, the difference between the two is substantial, but not that drastic. In highly-corrosive environments, the premium steel should last longer, in moderate climates, not so much. (While visiting Rosarito Beach, my CV Yellow Delrin Case Peanut suffered for it).

If it is needed, you'll wind up paying for the edge-retention and corrosion resistance that is needed in metallurgically-challenging surroundings (e.g.living by the ocean, working on the docks, etc). If you are living in a more moderate environment, it is less of a cause for concern. Under average circumstances, I wouldn't want to attempt living on the difference.

This knowledge should be applied to your EDC knives. You'll be a "happier camper" in the long run,

[Madmarco]

JD and Marco (you mad Otter, you).

I tend to agree with you both. I think that I will set my sights on the Pirahna "X" as my next auto. The blade and size assure a functional purpose. The only thing that concerns me is the size. If the knife is too big, I'll leave it at home and it won't be in my slacks front pocket. The "Virus" is a great knife and works well. The S30V steel makes the blade perform when needed and holds an edge like a dope fiend holding onto a habit. This knife will be seeing a lot of "pocket time".

I bought the "Pocket" (P1) for the same reasons. Its thinner profile encourages carry. The knife's blade style (and steel) are amenable to most lightweight cutting duties. The blade's low price "sealed the deal".

Welcome, JD and post more often. We have a great deal of fun and lively conversation.

Another model to consider Capn' would be the Pirahna Prowler or mini Prowler. They're similar to John's Bodyguard but a bit slimmer, and with the 2 sizes you could choose which size suits you better. I can't offer an opinion on blade steel, edge retention, versatility, etc. because I buy my autos or any folder for that matter, strictly for looks and hearing that addictive "crack" during a "click therapy" session. I learn more and more everyday about specs on this forum, but to date they just don't hold much importance for me.

Marco,

Permit me to elucidate:

<img src="https://www.bladehq.com/images/Knife%20 ... hart-b.png" alt="CPM-S30V Knife Steel Chart"/>

The edge retention and corrosion resistance are better with this SPM-S30V (premium steel


and,

<img src="https://www.bladehq.com/images/Knife%20 ... hart-b.png" alt="CPM-154 Knife Steel Chart"/>

These are the steels offered in the Pirahna line. While the CPM-S30V steel is in the "upper range" of knife steels, CPM-154 is no slouch. CPM-154 is considered a "mid-range" steel. As a "daily driver" (EDC) knife steel either steel performs very well. (While I prefer carrying blade steel that doesn't require frequent sharpening, the difference between the two is substantial, but not that drastic. In highly-corrosive environments, the premium steel should last longer, in moderate climates, not so much. (While visiting Rosarito Beach, my CV Yellow Delrin Case Peanut suffered for it).

If it is needed, you'll wind up paying for the edge-retention and corrosion resistance that is needed in metallurgically-challenging surroundings (e.g.living by the ocean, working on the docks, etc). If you are living in a more moderate environment, it is less of a cause for concern. Under average circumstances, I wouldn't want to attempt living on the difference.

This knowledge should be applied to your EDC knives. You'll be a "happier camper" in the long run,

Thanks for all that information Capn', but my situation really doesn't require applying it to my knives. I am 68 and in failing health so I rarely get outdoors anymore, and when I do I have absolutely no reason to carry a knife, much less use one. From your posts it's not hard to deduce that you're out and about most of the time and always carry one or more knives with you that you actually put to use, not so with me. There was definitely a time that I would carry a folder and occasionally have a reason to use it, but not anymore. My favorite knives are autos, and if I did still venture outdoors I wouldn't be able to carry one because I live in Canada where autos and actually most other knives are prohibited, and I just wouldn't risk losing one to a random stop-check by a LEO. I still have plenty of fun handling cleaning and oiling and firing my knives, so I've just learned to adapt to my current situation and enjoy it! Thx again, and take a look at the Prowlers!

[Captain O]

On December 1st, I'll be 67 and I'm still out either driving one of my Jaguars or running errands. I never leave the house unarmed. (In downtown Portland, that can result in being either seriously injured, or killed). Believe me, in town, my head is "on a swivel" and I am constantly in a state of "situational awareness".

I am rather fond of breathing.

[Madmarco]

On December 1st, I'll be 67 and I'm still out either driving one of my Jaguars or running errands. I never leave the house unarmed. (In downtown Portland, that can result in being either seriously injured, or killed). Believe me, in town, my head is "on a swivel" and I am constantly in a state of "situational awareness".

I am rather fond of breathing.

"one of my Jaguars"?, my goodness, how many do you have? Most folks would be happy with one and you have more than one? I've heard that Portland can be a rough town if you don't know where to stay away from, so it's probably quite wise that you protect yourself. Keep on breathin'!

[Captain O]

Marco,

You must watch out for the homeless (read: whacked-out bums) that spend their days prowling the streets and their nights feeding their alcohol and methamphetamine habits. I room about 18 miles from downtown Portland in a farmhouse, minding my own business and going to church on Sunday.

I have a "Topaz" 1997 Jaguar XJ6 L and a silver 3.0 Liter 2005 Jaguar "S" Type. Both are wonderful sedans. (They aren't expensive because people don't understand how good they are and believe all of the old "bad press" concerning the marque). They just require attention and routine maintenance, nothing more. (Look them up and you'll see what I mean).

[Madmarco]

Marco,

You must watch out for the homeless (read: whacked-out bums) that spend their days prowling the streets and their nights feeding their alcohol and methamphetamine habits. I room about 18 miles from downtown Portland in a farmhouse, minding my own business and going to church on Sunday.

I have a "Topaz" 1997 Jaguar XJ6 L and a silver 3.0 Liter 2005 Jaguar "S" Type. Both are wonderful sedans. (They aren't expensive because people don't understand how good they are and believe all of the old "bad press" concerning the marque). They just require attention and routine maintenance, bother more. (Look them up and you'll see what I mean).

I was just teasing you man, it's none of my business on how you wish to spend your money. One hears the word "Jaguar" and immediately thinks $$$$$, but they're no different than any other car, you must maintain and look after your investment so it brings you many years of pleasure, although I've also heard that Jags do require constant tuning and care. I'm sure the ride and handling makes up for any costs you must endure!

[Captain O]

Marco,

You must watch out for the homeless (read: whacked-out bums) that spend their days prowling the streets and their nights feeding their alcohol and methamphetamine habits. I room about 18 miles from downtown Portland in a farmhouse, minding my own business and going to church on Sunday.

I have a "Topaz" 1997 Jaguar XJ6 L and a silver 3.0 Liter 2005 Jaguar "S" Type. Both are wonderful sedans. (They aren't expensive because people don't understand how good they are and believe all of the old "bad press" concerning the marque). They just require attention and routine maintenance, bother more. (Look them up and you'll see what I mean).

I was just teasing you man, it's none of my business on how you wish to spend your money. One hears the word "Jaguar" and immediately thinks $$$$$, but they're no different than any other car, you must maintain and look after your investment so it brings you many years of pleasure, although I've also heard that Jags do require constant tuning and care. I'm sure the ride and handling makes up for any costs you must endure!

The XJ6 L is the "long wheelbase" version of the venerable 4.0 Liter XJ6 (6-cylinder) AJ-16 (a DOHC, 24-valve engine). 1997 was the last year Jaguar made them. (Hint: They're hooked up to a 4-speed automatic transmission identical to the one you would find in a BMW 740i). The engine is nearly "bulletproof". Ford had the helm during its production and it is "dead-nuts" reliable. Our AJ16's are an undersquare design which is precisely what you want for low-end torque, but does limit max revs. I think a lot of the "feel" our engines is based on it being designed for a diesel option that never materialized. It's given us a bulletproof lower end, and the freight train type of linear torque that we experience.


The 3.0 S-type is also a DOHC engine, but it is a V-6. These engines also possess a legendary reputation for reliability. Ford helped Jaguar "tool-up" to produce the engine which is/was a product of both a bottom-end engineered by Porsche and a valve train engineered by Jaguar.

I have driven each on a 2500-mile trip between North Plains, OR, and Tijuana, BCN, Mexico. They're great sedans (and the XJ6 L is akin to a limousine).