Found this folding knife in with my fathers belongings.

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Found this folding knife in with my fathers belongings.

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It has a No.6 on both sides. On the blade is a “No.6 Sheffield steel” and two stamped markings on the other that look like Maltese crosses a bit.
I am not a collector of knives so no idea as to it’s value to a collector. Real? Fake? Value?
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Found this old thread. I'll look for more


https://allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_ ... hp?t=54360

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-Sheffield- ... SwF9JgFaZq

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-british-Sh ... SwOEZgE2IO

I wonder if there are stamped with No. 6 is because that was the street address of. Jos. Rodgers?

Antique JOSEPH RODGERS SONS Sheffield Bowie knife with stag handle and hard to ... Marked J. RODGERS & SONS No 6 NORFOLK ST SHEFFIELD
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I believe that is a made in India or Pakistan knife that is trying to emulate a Joseph Rodgers.
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hallwill58 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:12 pm It has a No.6 on both sides. On the blade is a “No.6 Sheffield steel” and two stamped markings on the other that look like Maltese crosses a bit.
I am not a collector of knives so no idea as to it’s value to a collector. Real? Fake? Value?
I don't know anything about your knife H.W., ::shrug:: but I'm sure someone will be along who does! ::nod:: And, ::welcome:: to AAPK! 8)
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Levine says it is a counterfeit made in India.
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Not sure what a levine is? Or how it/he determined that?

I would be more interested of some items to look for that makes the counterfeit claim?
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I apologize, I forgot to ::welcome:: you to AAPK!

Levine is Bernard Levine, who wrote "Levine's Guide to Knives and Their Values". It is one of the most used references for knife collectors.

The Maltese crosses were a symbol used by Joseph Rodgers & Sons. They were one of most respected cutlery firms back in the days of Sheffield excellence. The fact that your knife has the Maltese crosses, but no stamping of Joseph Rodgers is one indication that it is counterfeit. Joseph Rodgers address in Sheffield was No. 6 Norfolk St. The counterfeiters used the Maltese crosses and the reference to No. 6 to try to dupe people into believing they were getting an actual Sheffield made knife. The quality of your knife, even from the pictures, is in no way up to the quality of an actual Joseph Rodgers knife. The blade grinds, the poor fit and finish, the difference in material between the pins and the bolster and cap material all point to this. I don't believe Joseph Rodgers ever stamped No.6 on their bolster.

Bernard Levine made a life's study of knives of all descriptions. He has handled thousands upon thousands of good knives, and fakes. He is not infallible. However, through his handling of many similar knives, he has come to the conclusion that No.6 Sheffield Knife was a mark used by counterfeiters in India, likely when India was still part of the British commonwealth.
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hallwill58 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:03 pm Not sure what a levine is? Or how it/he determined that?

I would be more interested of some items to look for that makes the counterfeit claim?
Please don't be offended. It is what it is and the folks on the forum don't take the information they post lightly.
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jerryd6818 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:58 pm
hallwill58 wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 7:03 pm Not sure what a levine is? Or how it/he determined that?

I would be more interested of some items to look for that makes the counterfeit claim?
Please don't be offended. It is what it is and the folks on the forum don't take the information they post lightly.
Very diplomatic, Jerry. ::tu:: Thanks
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