Truly Hilarious,,MINT knife? You be the Judge

ilikeknives · Post by **ilikeknives** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:56 pm

Check out the shield

, and then to LYAO, check the embellished description

. Unreal.

Ebay item #200004093483

-OR-

http://cgi.ebay.com/CASE-knife-ELEPHANT ... dZViewItem

PA Knives · Post by **PA Knives** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:13 pm

HI!

For the benefit of those that don't know the difference, can you elaborate as to why it is so wrong in your opinoin? This truly helps those that don't know. I am anixous to hear your version. I like to get others prospectives on knives.

Thanks

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:17 pm

I've seen the guy's auctions and he seems to streeeeeetch the boundries somewhat in his descriptions. The kind of descriptions that would give a used car salesman a bad name.

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:31 pm

Ahemmm...Well it looks like the teacher is back in the classroom so I better sit up straight...

My interpretation of "Mint" is a knife that looks like it did from the factory and that meaning no blemish of any kind from the factory either. Never carried or sharpened, a perfect knife in all aspects...

"Near Mint" would be the same criteria as above but with a little wear, maybe it has never been used,carried or sharpened but may have a slight scuff mark or two on the knife making it not perfect...

I currently have knives for sale on Ebay and for the first time I marked two of the knives mint because of their outstanding condition, they are that nice. But I still hesitantly use the term when describing most knives because of natural flaws...

Of course as the old saying goes "Is the glass half empty or half full" everybody looks at things just a little different or from their own perspective..

Sunburst

ilikeknives · Post by **ilikeknives** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:39 pm

Sure thing PA.
#1) The shield. Is that a CASE knife?? I am not sure because the metal is rubbed down to the base........MINT knife ??

#2) The general appearance of the knife

. As I have learned, a MINT knife (rare) is a factory-fresh knife. I have several hundred knives and I can claim perhaps a handfull as "truly MINT"
#3) This seller says every knife he lists is either the best he's ever seen, or some such BS. How can he be considered remotely legit when this conduct continues unabated? It's irritating and shameful to the point of non-belief. No one makes this many mistakes, and no one could rightly term this knife, mint. Another f--k everyone, it's all about me sub-human fossil-dung oxygen waster.
IMO, it's pure and simple deceptive evil. I guess some folks can la-dee-da thru their day and think nothing of it. My Granny was right all along, money is the root of this evil.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:47 pm

Does anyone else wonder about the jigging on that knife?

Bill

Roger - 50/2050 · Post by **Roger - 50/2050** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:22 am

Glenn & my other knifer friends,

This seller gets the yarn spin award for this year!!! ....Be watchful my knife Brothers, if you bid on any knife this seller is offering, know the knife! ....The Case shield is the one thing that also comes to my mind friends, Glenn had sent me this knife auction & this was my reply to him ----> "Glenn, I would rate this knife a near mint minus or excellent +++, in percent -----------> 85% ....Roger" ....Bill, what are your comments about the jigging?

"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

ilikeknives · Post by **ilikeknives** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:22 am

Let us know what you mean about the jigging Bill, I for one need to know that. Thanks,-Glenn

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:42 am

I am not a Case guy, soooo, I might be wrong.
However, there is an area/patch on each side that appears to have been jigged over in a different size, shape, angle...at least to my eyes.
Do any of you Case collectors have a knife similar to this one to compare the jigging pattern? It just looks like where the rows were going fairly straight and clean, there is helter skelter jigging...as if to hide a flaw/crack or something.

Bill

Roger - 50/2050 · Post by **Roger - 50/2050** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:56 am

Bill,

I have two of these 6250's in my own personal collection & with compairing the wooden scales on this knife to my others I would have to say that the jigging on this knife is legit, on the front side scale it looks to be worn in the part right after the shield to me & nothing more with out holding this knife in my own hand for closer inspection!

"Texas collector", Roger - 50/2050

wt3l · Post by **wt3l** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:03 am

Hi Dee Boys,

Well, i have a "Wood" handled 6250 case ETN. I picked up at the local Flea Mkt. I know it is in "NO-WAY" in the same class as a 2050 ETN with an elephant etch, but here's a pic of mine for comparison on the jigging...

later ya'll, kj

wt3l · Post by **wt3l** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:10 am

I agree with Roger, Bill
I also think the knife is worn in that area you're describing. That's why I tried with a pic of miy knife. Although mine is NOT worn in that manner. Also I would "NEVER" call a knife like this mint. Just my opinion....sometimes it feels good to actually write it out!!!

rather thatn abriviate. hehehe.

later, kj

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:17 am

My only thoughts...knife is completely legit and looks unused and unsharpened. The shield does look a bit odd...its one of the "delrin and composition" shields without the oval circle around "CASE".....but the shield looks worn down.

Here is a possible explanation for the shield problem. It was 1974 when Case started using the shield without the oval to differentiate delrin, composition, and wood handled knives from bone and stag handle knives....when they made this change initally they would just install the same shield (with the oval) then during the final hafting and buffing they would essentially "buff" the oval off (hopefully) leaving the letttering CASE intact. However, some knives would end up with faint lettering since it was impossible to buff that selectively. In later years I believe that they actually made the shields up without the oval to avoid this problem.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:26 am

I didn't/don't question the correctness of the knife...as it's not what I accumulate, and I don't know them like you folks.
However, I don't think the jigging is worn, but doctored...as that would be a lot of spot wear for a knife that looks relatively unused. But, JMO.

Anyway, a good exercise, and I respect the opinions posted by all of you, and consider it an ongoing learning experience.

Bill

Edited to add: If any of you have Ritchie and Stewart's Guide, look at the picture of the 6250 in the Case Appendix (in the 4th edition it is pg. 613) in the back. Note the fairly consistent E to W jigging on the entire knife, as compared to the knife in question, especially near the shield. I have looked at some jigging at the Elephant Toe site...and some is similar, but seems to be more near the end of the jigging pattern.
Just as some added food for thought. As always, JMO.

PA Knives · Post by **PA Knives** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:52 am

NOW that is more like it. What a great learning experience from numerous collecotors that are knowledgable in the field. You all have done well in your descriptions and comments. Makes me think that there is hope afterall. Keep'em coming like this and we stand a chance of educating some people in this fine hobby.