thank you smiling.
i scored, went into a saddle shop, yes, real live saddle maker, and he had a few knives on display...chinese...not what i am looking for thanks...as i am walking out, he says..you want to look through a couple of buckets of knives i have in the back?
...i found this rogers, a shur snap, equal end, cell scale, spring loader, a PAL two bladed, fat end jack,plastic stage scales, and an unmarked, two bladed jack, black derlin with a rio grande petroleum products shield.
50 bucks for all...the shursnap wouldn't close, or snap open...amazing what a drop of lubrication can do for machine parts...
need to go back to those buckets with more money.
my camera an scaner have gone on strike...i will post pic's when i can.
thanks again sir.