Ode To The 07

The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
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I do not recall a Queen made Mini-T with checkered genuine mother of pearl sides in Q's collection. That's not just incomplete, it's a serious shortage of Mini-Ts. Don't take my word for it. Just ask the monkey.
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I used to have a Queen Doctor knife with the chequered MOP, but I sold it some time (and several computers) ago so couldn't locate any photos.
It was OK on the slender Dr., but I don't think I would like that handle on a Mini-T; a little too much texture that's not particularly comfortable in the hand.
Besides, the insatiable Monkey already has his tunnel-vision sight focused on another "must-have" 07W ::watching_you::
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Bought this (post)modern "Queen"...well...this knife with the word "Queen" stamped on the tang, anyway, but I can assure you, this mini trapper is virtually unrecognizable from any genuine Queen Cutlery knife I have ever owned...and I've owned a few.
That said...this knife is also a waste of $40 and a total disappointment as a knife: gritty walk and unusually weak snap. I worked each blade for 15 mins with Quick Release and flushed out a bunch of gunk but still can't get rid of the gritty action or improve the snap. Both black composite handle covers are dull and scuffed up. The blade edges aren't entirely dull, but they would likely be challenged to slice a sausage or perhaps even a hard stick of butter. Very disappointing knife...should never have been allowed to wear the Queen name.

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Rumor has it that they are made by Bear&Son.. ::facepalm:: Might explain your issues Q.. ::hmm::
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That "Pilot Test Run" etched on the blade turns me off. Anyone who has had any manufacturing experience knows the Pilot Test runs are only a few to see how the plan is going to work out. Coleman etched "First Production Run" on the back of the main blade on ALL their knives (or at least all I've seen & that's a lot). It must have been one whale of a "First Production Run".

I would get one but that etch and the possibility they were made by Bear & Son? Nah, I'll pass.
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Trust me...the marketing gimmick "Pilot Test Run" blade etch is the least of this sorry knife's problems.

To be fair, I should note that I do like the stainless pins and liners...no brass anywhere to be found on this baby--not that it makes all that much difference in the overall quality--I would gladly trade the stainless hardware for smooth walk, snappy talk and a decent cutting edge any day of the week.

Interestingly, SMKW shipped this knife in a zipper pouch instead of a box. I suspect it was an attempt to disguise the poor quality of the knife inside. Unfortunately, the factory put so much oil on the blades it totally soaked through the anti-tarnish paper wrapper and stained the faux fur inside the pouch.

It's sad to have to admit, but this dud B&S "Queen" makes the Chinese Kershaw Gadsden seem like a custom handmade knife by comparison, and for about half the price to boot (actually less than half; I found a dealer selling the Gadsden for $14.95). What is the cutlery world coming to? :(

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QTCut5 wrote: Thu May 07, 2020 8:37 pm I found a dealer selling the Gadsden for $14.95). What is the cutlery world coming to? :(
Good deal. I paid $21.95 + $2.99 shipping + $1.56 Tax
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This one came today. She's a beauty!
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She's a gorgeous ... redhead? Case forgot her 6 and what does the H stand for? Aren't most **07Ws younger? When did Case start making **07Ws? Thirty year old redheads are tempting.
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I'm not real sure what your question is but I'm pretty sure I don't know the answer. :mrgreen: I just buy 'em to have and stuff in a folder. I don't obsess over them and waste time researching them other than trying to not buy the same knife twice. I'm not a collector. I'm more of an accumulator.
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Modern Slip Joints wrote: Sat May 02, 2020 8:40 pm Some sadistic meanie is going to whisper into the monkey's ear 1107W. :D
It just occurred to me that "technically" there actually IS a 1107W: a single-blade Wharncliffe 07 with English Walnut wood handle which Case made for Ducks Unlimited in 2015. For some reason, however, the pattern stamp on the tang shows 6107W. Is that a "factory error" or did Case not want to make a whole new tang stamp just for this one SFO, so they decided to use Wharncliffe blades from their existing stockpile that already had the 6107W pattern stamp? ::shrug::

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Modern Slip Joints wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 11:19 pm She's a gorgeous ... redhead? Case forgot her 6 and what does the H stand for? Aren't most **07Ws younger? When did Case start making **07Ws? Thirty year old redheads are tempting.
OCD Monkey's (Obsessively Collecting Data) brain is telling me that 1990 was the first year Case put a Wharncliffe blade on the 07 frame...hence, the "1st Issue" designation. I recall reading that this was the brainchild of Jim Parker, who produced a limited run (I have no idea how many) of five different color jigged bone handles (red, yellow, blue, green, honey) in two models of each (fine edge and serrated Wharncliffe). Instead of the usual "6" in the pattern number, the 1st Issue Wharncliffe Mini Trappers had a letter corresponding to the bone color (R for Red, B for Blue, etc.). But, the letter prefix is only shown in the pattern number printed on the box label, not on the tang stamp. Sometimes Case uses "WH" to designate a Wharncliffe blade (instead of a single "W").

I am very glad to see that jerryd snagged the fine edge red bone model. I am still waiting for the serrated red bone to arrive, and then I'll have 8 of the 10 variations--lacking only the fine edge blue bone and the serrated green bone models.
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Hey Q and jerry.. ::tu:: 8) ::tu::
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I agree with John. ::nod:: ::nod::
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WH for Wharncliff is new to me. Maybe the blades were not stamped with a 6 so they could be used to assemble some with stag or pearl?

Previously I'd only seen WH for Whittler. At one time since all my Case Whittlers that had a wedge separating their springs had the WH suffix and my only three spring Case Whittler, a 6308, did not have the WH suffix I bid on a 6308WH like it was a split back. Sellers avoid pictures of the springs when a Whittler has three of them. I got a three spring 6308WH for the price of a split back. :oops: Live and learn.

You, meaning Q, do seem to have an 07 with a Wharncliff blade for every occasion. Walnut looks great as furniture, gun stocks and in just about every thing it's used for, including knife handles.
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This one finally arrived.

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According to my unofficial (but generally reliable) source, Case made only 100 of each of the "1st Issue" 207WHSS patterns (five handle colors; each color in a plain edge and a serrated Wharncliffe model)
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That’s a wicked lookin’ Warncliffe on that one! Y’all keep going, the 07’s are interesting.
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QTCut5 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 12:50 am This one finally arrived.


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According to my unofficial (but generally reliable) source, Case made only 100 of each of the "1st Issue" 207WHSS patterns (five handle colors; each color in a plain edge and a serrated Wharncliffe model)
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QTCut5 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 12:50 am This one finally arrived.


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According to my unofficial (but generally reliable) source, Case made only 100 of each of the "1st Issue" 207WHSS patterns (five handle colors; each color in a plain edge and a serrated Wharncliffe model)
Did they do any others set up like that? I was just thinking about this the other day, thinking about how perfect it would be as my EDC. At only 100 of each color, if I ever got one, it would be put away safely first thing.
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cody6268 wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 2:39 am Did they do any others set up like that? I was just thinking about this the other day, thinking about how perfect it would be as my EDC. At only 100 of each color, if I ever got one, it would be put away safely first thing.
As far as other patterns goes, the only one other than the 07 that I know Case released was a "1st Issue" tang-stamped Wharncliffe Copperhead (49W) with the pattern number 0200WHSS...which, I confess, I'm at a loss as how to decipher that seemingly incorrect/inconsistent pattern number being on what is obviously a 49 frame. ::shrug:: I used to own a couple, but I can't recall for sure if any of mine had a serrated Wharncliffe blade, or if that option was even available on the "1st Issue" Copperhead (I'll have to root around in my photos, but I'm pretty sure it was available and I did have one).

Here's a pic of one I used to have (sold it and my entire Copperhead collection not too long ago to other members right here on AAPK). This one has a fine edge Wharncliffe and the jigged Honey Bone handle.
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Here's my 207WHSS 1st Issue collection so far (80% complete).
Curiously, the Blue Bone is the only one with a serial number bolster stamp (try explaining that to OCD Monkey! ::cb:: :evil: )
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The hunt for the final two continues.
::nod:: A handsome finder's fee (perpetual standing offer) for information leading to the acquisition of the missing two:
Blue/Plain Edge
Green/Serrated
Any and all possible leads are always eagerly encouraged and highly appreciated. ::handshake::
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Another one for the Blues Collection. The handle of this one looks very similar to the Blue Camel Bone used on Northwoods, IMO...I really like it. Notice the "B" prefix in the pattern number...presumably, it stands for "Blue."

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That's a very impressive 207WH collection. I do not remember seeing serrated Wharncliff blades in 07s before. Were they ordered by SMKW? Apparently Parker had his own ideas on what the how the handle material should be noted in tang stamps. Maybe he thought if nothing indicated other wise we should presume the sides were bone? All the Cases I have that have letters for bone color include the 6 on the tang. I have DR6 for dark red, BG6 for bright green, G6 for green, W6 for white and probably one or two I've forgotten.

I hope that you'll entertain two quick dumb 07 questions. Were any single blade 07s made with blades other than Wharncliffs? Also are there any 07s out in the woods with scout shields?
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Modern Slip Joints wrote: Fri May 22, 2020 3:58 am Were any single blade 07s made with blades other than Wharncliffs? Also are there any 07s out in the woods with scout shields?
Yes x 2

The _107 also comes with a single clip blade. I see a lot of the blue bone w/ Ford shield 6107 SS on eBay...and I'm currently watching a single clip blade 07 with the Kaleidoscope motif. There's also a Harley'Davidson G-10 10107...and possibly a few more that I'm forgetting.

Less common is this natural bone/smooth oiled bone 6107 which, curiously, has no pattern number tang stamp, but does have a "new grind" blade. Date stamp shows 1983, so this could have been an early _107 prototype to showcase the new "new grind" blades. I don't know if this particular model ever went into production, but I haven't ever seen any others like it, so I suspect probably not.

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If by "scout shields" you mean scouts as in the scouting organization formerly known as BSA (Boy Scouts of America), then, yes...there are many such models either currently in production or from very recent production.

Here are some newer BSA-themed 07s from my collection. The three etched natural bone 07s were a generous gift from Tom (bestgear), resident expert on Official Boy Scout Knives.
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Your serrated edge 07s got me thinking about Case knives with scout shields, not necessarily knives sold through BSA. There are many varieties of Case knives with scout shields. Most have one blade with a serrated edge. I doubt the ones with stag sides were sold through BSA because stag is expensive on a boy's budget but I have not researched that. My only examples are three bladed stag sided Peanuts. I was wondering if there were similar Mini-Ts.

Drifting off topic my favorite official BSA knife is the ~ 5" dougle lock back Camillus that has ~ 4" clip and saw blades. The locks are frivolous but they sure show the design was done right.

Mini-T enthusiasts will enjoy looking at the Buck 382 that dlr110 just posted on page 100 of the thread What's Your Newest Addition To Your Buck Family and Why? It has a fish shield in bone dyed to look like bubbles and seaweed. It's as cut as Mini-Ts get! viewtopic.php?f=53&t=30030&start=1485
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