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Ditto all Bill and Keith - awesome knives ::tu:: ::tu:: ...

Keith - The stanhope viewer is really cool on that leg knife and the photo in it is just plain old perfect - great score 8) 8) ::tu:: ::tu:: ... In truth I have never handled a knife with a stanhope viewer but someday the right one will come along - like yours :lol: :mrgreen: ::handshake:: ...
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espn77 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 pm Well how about that!!!!!
The true definition of a lady leg knife.
Now that is one darn COOOOL knife!!! ::tu:: Congrats on that one! ::super_happy::
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Thanks guys. I never would have even known what I had if I wouldn't have shown it here. ::tu::
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TPK wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:13 pm
espn77 wrote: Tue Mar 31, 2020 3:00 pm Well how about that!!!!!
The true definition of a lady leg knife.
Now that is one darn COOOOL knife!!! ::tu:: Congrats on that one! ::super_happy::
Sure as heck is! .... congrats espn77
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Enjoyed the revelation experienced by ESPN77. Great to witness.

Probably the easiest way to pick up a knife with a Stanhope lens is through Anheuser-Busch knives. Not sure the new ones have them, but the older ones have a photo of Aldolphus Busch in them.

I was visiting an elderly couple years ago and the lady showed me a small collection of bone and ivory sewing trinkets or implements and half of them contained a Stanhope viewer, of which she was unaware.

They all contained scenes from the St. Louis World's Fair.

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A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
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Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:07 pm A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
"Any help is appreciated in my research."

It's from Gremany! ::tu:: No problem. ::handshake:: :lol:

Sorry, can't make out the rest. ::shrug:: Nice looking knife though! Congrats! ::super_happy::
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Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:07 pm A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
Ok I felt bad about the wise crack so I did some searching. ::facepalm::

It's a "VC" knife. Or "VOM CLEFF & Co."
The word "vom" means "from" in German.

Here are 2 pics & a link. That should get you started. ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1930s-Vom-Clef ... ect=mobile

I'll see If I can come up with anything else. ::handshake::

Edit: I have also read "VOM CLEFF & CO / LION CUTLERY" several times and NY once. ?
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Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:07 pm A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
Here is a bunch of Info in english. ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

http://thebladeblog-ulf.blogspot.com/20 ... 73661.html
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TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:43 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:07 pm A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
Here is a bunch of Info in english. ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

http://thebladeblog-ulf.blogspot.com/20 ... 73661.html
Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
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Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:43 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:07 pm A buddy acquired an old knife for me, can't find a dang thing about it other than it was an old cutlery company...Any help is appreciated in my research.
Truthfully, I just brought it because of the beautiful pearl handles and it looked old.
Here is a bunch of Info in english. ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

http://thebladeblog-ulf.blogspot.com/20 ... 73661.html
Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
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TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:43 pm

Here is a bunch of Info in english. ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

http://thebladeblog-ulf.blogspot.com/20 ... 73661.html
Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
I did indeed my friend, waiting now to get my hands on it. So this probably means that it's the oldest stamp...correct?
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Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:59 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 pm

Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
I did indeed my friend, waiting now to get my hands on it. So this probably means that it's the oldest stamp...correct?
I assume it's the oldest but I'm just guessing. :D
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TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:01 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:59 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm

Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
I did indeed my friend, waiting now to get my hands on it. So this probably means that it's the oldest stamp...correct?
I assume it's the oldest but I'm just guessing. :D
I'll take that... ::handshake::
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Don’t know just how obscure it is, but I just picked up this well-worn knife marked Alfred & Son Celebrated Cutlery.
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Well, you've got a beauty there, William Adams. Nice catch.
Goin's encyclopedia states:
Alfred & Son celebrated cutlery, 1850-1875

Of course it has some blade loss; why wouldn't it?
It has some beautiful old wood.
A real find!

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William Adams wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:25 am Don’t know just how obscure it is, but I just picked up this well-worn knife marked Alfred & Son Celebrated Cutlery.
That's a nice one William, love the beautiful worn wood... boy if that knife could talk
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TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 pm
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:43 pm

Here is a bunch of Info in english. ::tu:: ::handshake:: ::super_happy::

http://thebladeblog-ulf.blogspot.com/20 ... 73661.html
Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
Here it is , cleaned up a little and oiled. I had heck trying to pry it open to do so...but now it works fine and is stunning under the light.
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Gone2Three wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:05 am
TPK wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:46 pm
Gone2Three wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 pm

Lol...Tom you crack me up ::woot::
Boy...you sure knocked it out of the park on this one. I'm thinking my search engine has thrown a rod ::dang::
This is exactly what I was needing, when I actually get the knife in hand we'll see if there are any other markings.
Really appreciate your response and fine sense of humor ::super_happy::
Was looking through this stuff again. Did you notice :shock: the picture with the different Tang Stamps. ::tu::
Maybe one of the experts with Cutlery books at home can tell you more now that we know the name on the Tang stamp of your knife. Your's is the one on the left side. (Click on the picture to enlarge.)
Anyways, here the different Stamps. ::tu::
Here it is , cleaned up a little and oiled. I had heck trying to pry it open to do so...but now it works fine and is stunning under the light.
Great looking knife! I like it! Nice score! ::tu:: ::super_happy::
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Obscure German knife Co?....

Alright friends, I've received my first fishing knife that was picked up off the bay. I have tried to research the brand and haven't had much luck.
Are there any others out there that might have one or more of this knife makers pieces in their collection? Anyone have history or know about how old this might be. It's a solid one, very clean and doesn't look to have been used. Not thinking that it's too old but y'a never know....
Thanks!
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Not a knife but it will cut. Stamping is JOSEPH GRAY & SON SHEFFIELD FIRST PRIZE MEDAL LONDON 1862 SILVER MEDAL PARIS 1878. 3 3/4 inches closed with heavy brass handles. Hoped the handles were gold. Both fleams are very sharp.
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Here is one that I feel very fortunate to have added.....4 3/8"
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Now that is a Jumbo Jack! Very nice find ::tu::
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Now Ike,that is a BIG cigar! ::tu::
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Nice find Ike, obscure brand and one nice knife, very nice ::tu:: ::tu::
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