New Schrade?

[roberts661]

Just got a Schrade 83 OT.It's about 3.5",two blade trapper with a clip and pen .Has a notch for the nail nick on the pen blade.Can't find it in Dale Vincents lists.

[muskrat man]

that would be a 33OT middleman jack. Easy to misread the tangstamps since they were so small

[roberts661]

I got my 10 power loupe to doublecheck.It's 88.They might have turned the 33 stamp over and hit it again.Posting two new pix.

[muskrat man]

probably a flaw in the die, look at a picture of a 33OT and you will agree, it's the same knife

[Pen & Toothpick]

I think the most important thing is it is made in US! and that it is pre Schrade closing....I think most of us knew right away that was a Jack knife...and Muskrat I think you are dead on....pattern number and everything only makes sence that way!

I love what you guys have to say................but why does everyone always have to make wise crack at small blades and small knifes?

[jonet143]

here is a pic of a 33 OT.

[muskrat man]

I love what you guys have to say................but why does everyone always have to make wise crack at small blades and small knifes?

what are you talking about? I was speaking of the tangstamp being small, not the knife. I EDC a 33OT often and have no wise cracks to make of any knife being small.

[orvet]

I am inclined to agree with Kaleb………flaw in the die.
Notice how indistinct all of the letters are, in the largest of your pictures.
I think this may have been a die that was almost used up.

The dies were only good for so many impressions & then they were replaced.
As indistinct as those letters are at the higher magnification I think this die was well-used and nearing replacement.

Another possible explanation is a small sliver of metal (or something) was on the numeral 3 causing it to leave an impression looking more like an 8, but I think it is most likely just a worn die stamp. The stamps are one piece and the whole stamp appears to me to be worn.

Just my 2¢,
Dale

[Froggyedge]

Has there ever been any model 83OT..?

Nice little Jack anyway!

[jands40]

I just acquired a 93OT Schrade Old Timer USA jack knife. It has Schrade+ blades, slender California clip and a sheepfoot. I understand Schrade didn't make a lot of this pattern and very few Old Timers in stainless. I like the blade pattern but wish it was carbon. Any added value due to its scarcity?
Jerry

[orvet]

Has there ever been any model 83OT..?

I have never seen an 83OT listed in any Schrade catalog. The numbers skip from the 77OT, the Improved Muskrat to the 89OT Blazer, a 4" stockman with a serrated sheepfoot blade.


The 93OT was listed in Schrade’s catalogs from 1982 through 1993, a 12 year run (remember it was listed in 1982 & 1993 inclusive). By Schrade standards it is a little bit hard to come by, but not rare like a 9OT, 2OT, 13OT or 14OT.

The 93OT is a pattern made only in stainless steel like the 98OT (1982-1997). They were both introduced the same year. Both were built on the 3-9/16” frame with the popular slim California clip master blade, the same frame, blade size & blade pattern as the 897UH, the Uncle Henry Signature Premium Stock pattern.

The 897UH was the first Uncle Henry knife introduced and the longest running pattern in that line. It was introduced in 1967 and produced through 2004 when the factory closed. The 98OT enjoyed a longer life span than the 93OT did. Probably because it is essentially an Old Timer version of the 897UH,

Building multiple knives on the same frame, with the same blades can save a lot in manufacturing costs. Eventually, I would guess the sales of the 987UH were greater than the 98OT and they dropped the 98OT from the line. After all, given a choice, which would you choose; a knife with saw cut bone handles or a stag handle knife? The Delrin (Old Timers) is made to appear as saw cut bone handles, while the Staglon (Uncle Henrys) was made to look like stag. My guess would be that customers were expressing their preference for the Staglon by buying the 897UH instead of the 98OT.

When the 98OT was last listed in the Schrade catalog (1997) the 98OT had a MSRP of $30.95, while the MSRP of the 897UH that year was $33.95. So for a mere $3 American (the price of a latte that year,………..remember I am from Oregon) the buyer could have the Staglon handles over the more plain looking saw cut Delrin handles.


jands40
Both the 93 OT & 98 OT were only made in stainless. However, there were knives in the Open Stock series built on the 3-9/16” frame. The 895, 896K, 898K & 899 were all built on the slim 3-9/16” frame. I believe they all had the slim clip blade; either called the California clip or Turkish Clip (on earlier models). All were stockman patterns, but it should be possible to put a clip blade from one of them into a 93OT frame.

I do have an 896K with a good master blade but worn & broken secondary blades, if you are interested. The slim carbon clip blade should fit right into the 93OT, if you want it for a user.

Dale