America's "Little Sheffield"

[ratlesnake75]

Hey FRJ, Yes Sir I TOTALLY agree & the FUN part of knives too me. What is your thoughts about this one? While we are talking about New York & Walden
Kindest Regards & Blessings Sir
Mark

[FRJ]

Well, I don't know what to think of it really. I don't know this history very well. Just what I have now read in Goin's.
I am assuming it is a pre Hammer Brand knife and if that is so it was made between 1856 and 1878.
I would also assume that the spring is still stout.
It also looks like it's dressed a few deer.

[ratlesnake75]

Hey Joe, I believe the Exact same as You Sir. I sure enjoy the Hawks & YES INDEED the SNAP is KILLER brother
Kindest Regards,
Mark

[ratlesnake75]

Hey Guys, Ya'll know I like to call out my own mistakes & do my very best to make things right as this is a learning experience. I found another picture on ebay of a knife that is identical to mine but this one as you can see was not cleaned up.

I do believe now that the materials used on this knife were of steel construction & not nickel silver as before. I also now understand why we cant use the "center pin" or "Outer pins" construction as an absolute...NYK mix/matched a lot.

After reviewing some of my own Knife pictures, I came across this Doctors knife w/ the curved stamping on small blade.
Knife was original uncleaned condition. I was wrong about the "Curved" stamping being "Walden" knife co. Sorry!

You will notice on the doctor knife that it does have "Picked" bone handles which I were under the impression it pre-dated the later "Honey comb" style jigging on NYK knives? I assumed my NYK lockback was 1920s era with this jigging? Any help on this would be appreciated. I also posted a wood handled moose style with the NYK & Hammer Brand stamped on different blades,,,You will notice that it has steel rivets as well.
Kindest Regards,
Mark

[btrwtr]

I've always thought this curved NYK stamping to be an early one for NYK. All the NYK knives I have owned and seen with this stamp appeared to by early rather than later production for NYK. Hard to compare a wooden handled knife to a bone handle do to the nature of the raw material. Wooden knives are generally rounder, fatter in nature. Wooden handled knives will more often have steel components such as liners, bolsters and pins since they were generally not premium but rather working class knives. Wood and steel go together well. Spun pins on wood and celluloid are an exception rather than a rule. I don't look at long and short nail nick pulls as necessarily being an indication of of time unless applied to specific brands and patterns as in Case knives.

I don't really see any reason to attribute the NYK jack posted being made by Walden Knife Company but who knows what was done back in the day.

[BWT]

Enjoying looking at and reading about the knives in this thread. Here are a couple more. The bone is Walden,but the wood handle has Trenton,NJ on one blade and New York knife Walden on the other blade? Both are Electric Cutlery. Thanks for looking.

[ratlesnake75]

Thanks Wayne for your thoughts as I concur with you also.
BWT - Cool looking Wood jack. From the picture it looks like the Electric "curved" stamp is Newark, NJ. I always liked this brand, very well made knives. As per the New York knife secondary blade, most likely it was put into the knife long ago when the other blade broke. Awesome knife regardless
Kindest Regards,
Mark

[danno50]

Lovely old jack, Mark! I am very partial to bare headed, wood handled jacks. I have no insight into the discussion on the maker, appears to me that the consensus is to it being made by NYKCo.
Outstanding pearl whittler, Joe!

[danno50]

Great pair of jacks, Bill!

[BWT]

Thanks Mark and Dan! Mark, Goins said that when Electric left New Jersey and moved to Walden they were in the New York knife factory as a lower end knife I guess like Walkill was. I thought it was possible that the two different blades could have been done the factory in Walden?

[ratlesnake75]

Hey Mr. Bill, You are correct & Anything is possible Sir. I certainly dont have any documentation whatsoever, Just speculation & experience my man. I really believe this is a good question for Mr. Mike Losicco as he knows the History better than I do on the "Electric" & Friedmann Lauterjung knives.
Kindest Regards,
Mark

[FRJ]

Outstanding pearl whittler, Joe!

Thank you, Dan.

[FRJ]

Here's a pretty sweet sleeveboard lobster with a bit of the long pull cut into the tang
and a number stamp on the back of the tang. All nice and tight. 3 1/16" closed.

[danno50]

Another beauty, Joe!

[FRJ]

Thank you, Dan.

[FRJ]

Here is a little Congress that I got a while ago. 3 1/8" closed.

It is unsharpened but it has been used and apparently put away wet.
..... or, some one cut themselves with it and put it away uncleaned.
It has pitting and tarnish in small spots. I has Delrin covers.
Other than those issues it a fine little four blade Congress knife.

Thanks for looking.

[peanut740]

Walden Knife Co.NY 4 1/4" Ebony cigar jack.

[Waukonda]

Trying to hold back, and not be redundant by commenting on ALL these beauties you have been posting.....and then, I see this one. An Ebony cigar jack is one of my favorite knives, and this one is very nice, Roger. Thanks for posting.

[KAW]

I'm so glad to see all the knives being shown since I was here last...

My research into this big 4⅛" NYK jack has met a dead end. I was hoping to date the arched tang. I also noticed the absence of the Hammer Brand logo. Does this mean it dates to prior than 1880?... + a knife opener.



At least a 100 year old (as waa discontinued in 1920) Electric Cut./ Walden equal end with jigged bone.



Here's a couple of cool Ulster shadow sleeveboard pen knives...



one with green swirl celluloid scales...



one with MoP....



Here's a Schrade Cut Co Sunfish Lobster №8656T with MoP scales in near mint condition I found in a local antique store. I believe it was never used or carried. This one definately has become on of my favorite...



Now that I have a "new" computer, hopefully I'll be able to swing by more frequently...

[FRJ]

Beautiful knives you are showing here, Ken. A pleasure to see them
The knife opener is a real nice extra. Nice finds.

It's always nice to see you posting.

[KAW]

Thanks Joe...
Here's a couple more Ulsters I picked up recently & another knife opener...

a teardrop jack with ebony handles...



a sleeveboard with a heavy duty spear point as the master...



The reverse side of the knife opener is etched H.W.G.H. Co. in a diamond. Does anyone know what company these initials stood for?

Now I have an awful lot of catching up to do on this forum...

[BWT]

Very nice showing of knives Ken. HWG could be Hacket,Walther and Gates hardware St. Paul Mn. 1902-1912? I have a knife with nothing but HWG on the tang and that’s what I found in one of my reference books but I can’t remember which one it was right now, really nice knives

[Waukonda]

Thanks Joe...
Here's a couple more Ulsters I picked up recently & another knife opener...

a teardrop jack with ebony handles...



a sleeveboard with a heavy duty spear point as the master...



The reverse side of the knife opener is etched H.W.G.H. Co. in a diamond. Does anyone know what company these initials stood for?

Now I have an awful lot of catching up to do on this forum...

Wow, THAT is a spear blade, very nice pair!

[FRJ]

Those knife openers are the bee's knees.
And I like those knives ............ alot.

[FRJ]

Very nice showing of knives Ken. HWG could be Hacket,Walther and Gates hardware St. Paul Mn. 1902-1912? I have a knife with nothing but HWG on the tang and that’s what I found in one of my reference books but I can’t remember which one it was right now, really nice knives

Also might be associated with "Hackett Gates Hurty" 1912 to present.