"New" Hammer Brand - New York Knife Co.

Gmarcus · Post by **Gmarcus** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:06 pm

Hi, Anyone familiar with these?
This is the first I've seen any offerings from this outfit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HAMMER-BRAND-ST ... dZViewItem

Looks like someone bought the rights to the name. I was wondering if anyone knows about their quality.
Thanks, Gary

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:26 am

When Stewart Taylor purchased Imperial Schrade, he also got the rights, brand names, ect at auction, he ended up with the brand name as well. This is a brand new knife, of course, but an old, well-respected name. I call it a 'fake' myself, as it is not marked in any way as a reproduction. It's a guess who actually made the knife. Camillus, Bear, who knows?
Phil

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:46 pm

Tooling-wise looks identical in every detail to a Bear & Son 47 pattern. Bear is also making some new bone handle Schrade Walden marked knives for Taylor.

crush · Post by **crush** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:47 pm

I've looked through some of the collectors books that I have they all give the same date on the New York knife co. as 1878-1932. I also have several Hammer Brand in my collection the dates on those ones range from 1936-45 but none have the same tang stamp as this one, by that I mean, the hammer does not split the word hammer as this one does.

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:43 am

I think it was Imperial that started splitting the name Hammer with the arm and mallet when they acquired the brand name.

If it is a Bear & Son, my opinion is it is a decent knife. Perhaps I went over the edge calling said knife a 'fake'; after all, it is a real knife, made by a real company, under contract for the legal owner of the brand. But these kinda re-issues or whatever we call them do mess things up for future collectors. And we have all seen dishonest Ebays selling newly made 're-issues' as older, classic brands.

Phil