Another PAL

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:04 pm

Hey guys, does this one look legit to yall? I have bought from this seller before with no problems but I believe others have had issues with him. If it is correct, I am going for it. It just looks really new to be so old. All opinions and expertise is appreciated. Thanks, Kelley

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-PAL-BLADE-W ... dZViewItem

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:10 pm

I have owned quite a few PAL knives including the scout pattern, and everyhting about that one looks correct to me. It does appear that it has been cleaned and buffed.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:57 pm

I agree, cleaned but right, from what I see

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:12 am

Would be interesting to know what in the pictures tipped you off to that it was cleaned and buffed?......................Does look like a fine knife.

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:06 pm

Thanks for you guys opinions.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:24 pm

for one P&T the highly buffed sander scratches on the blade, it wouldn't have left the factory like that, someone didn't refine thier grits enough.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:18 pm

The inside of the punches were NOT polished on those knives, but this one has been. The main blade is down some; it does not have the full spear shape. It is, in general too shiny for that age of knife. The screw driver especially has some rounding of edges you would not expect on a factory knife. The jigging does not match front to back, IMO. Partial rehandle?

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:45 pm

I sure hope not Charlie...

I don't mind a blade being buffed but I really want no part of a rehandle on an older knife like this. Anyway, I am top bidder and I bid to win it. If I made a mistake, it won't be the first one and I'm sure not the last either! lol! Thanks for your opinion, Kelley

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:01 am

It could be that more material was polished from one side of the bone when it was made, Smoke. You'll see when you get it. All my remarks were negative, but it's still an interesting knife!

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:03 am

Muskrat and Upnorth.............................thank you for the comments they are enlightening.....Some day when I am old and retired maybe I can be an expert too!..............after looking closer I did notice something very odd to me............................................The Cuticle blade seems to be backwards! (I don't know if that is the correct term for it)...I have a couple older Case pen knifes with that kinda very small hook shaped blade.

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:07 am

Maybe I am wrong.......the edge must be on the other side.....never seen a blade like that....or how it would sit closed.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:25 am

the thin pointed blade is a leather punch. the other is a can opener.

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:52 am

Not the Leather punch....but the small blade with the concave or convex curve to it depending on how you look at it, which apears to be behind the leather punch.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:13 am

jonet143 wrote:the thin pointed blade is a leather punch. the other is a can opener.

that would be the other blade, a can opener. it's an old remington style.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:17 pm

[quote="Pen & Toothpick"]Muskrat and Upnorth.............................thank you for the comments they are enlightening.....Some day when I am old and retired maybe I can be an expert too! [quote]

OLD!? RETIRED!? sorry I am neither of those. the retired part I wouldn't mind though.

Cope · Post by **Cope** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Kelley, I don't know about the knife in question, but I have dealt with this seller quite a bit and have found him to be honest and trustworthy in every way. Jeff is a great guy and I know he'd make things right on anything he sold if there was a problem. It's been my experience with him that he UNDERstated his knives in the description. The ones I've gotten from him have all been right on the money or better. Good luck.......

Brad

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:24 pm

Sorry Muskrat I didn't mean it like that.............I got a real late start on collecting.......I meant it seems like I will be a real old man by the time I learn a 1/4 of what you guys know!

remington collector · Post by **remington collector** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:57 pm

That can opener blade is the 2-piece Tilman design. I think Remington began using it in 1926 or 1927.

Paladin · Post by **Paladin** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:14 pm

muskrat man wrote:
Pen & Toothpick wrote:Muskrat and Upnorth.............................thank you for the comments they are enlightening.....Some day when I am old and retired maybe I can be an expert too!

OLD!? RETIRED!? sorry I am neither of those. the retired part I wouldn't mind though.

And how old will you be on your next birthday, MM??

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:19 pm

Paladin wrote:
And how old will you be on your next birthday, MM??

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18 in 6 days

no need for apology P&T no offense taken

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:51 am

Well, I thought I bid to win at $75.00. Guess I'll never know if it was just buffed on the blades or a more in depth "unauthorized" restoration! lol!

Somebody wanted it more than me, but it's a good thing I was at work when the auction ended. No tellin what I might have done if I had been settin at the computer.

Thanks all for your opinions. I will be calling on you again I am sure, Kelley

Pen & Toothpick · Post by **Pen & Toothpick** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:23 am

This knife really took me for a loop............................Didn't realize that that was a two piece blade can opener......Knife collecting made me realize that I needing to get BiFocals.....all be it the weakest level......the funny thing is that with my glasses off I can pretty much see 20/20 to about 8 " away and still better than with my glasses on when it's that close!

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