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dlr110 wrote:
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dlr110 wrote:In preperation for my upcoming flight in September I stopped into Academy Sports for a handgun lockbox. When I asked the store attendant that was helping me to try one of the Taurus pistols to see how large of a pistol it would accommodate, he grabbed a Taurus G2s. The next thing I know I was buying both the lockbox and the gun. It won't kill bears on my trip to Alaska, but it will protect me against varmints on two legs. Next it's time to go to the range and try it out, the gun not the box. ::groove::

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Just curious and honestly mean no offense...

Is there a possibility of encountering a bear with where you are and associated activities you plan while there?

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It's a joke Jerry, but the cabin where I will be in Alaska I'm sure there will be bears not too far away. Some small communities do have problems with bears coming into neighborhoods from time to time. We have other guns in case there is any bear problems.

Sorry, missed the the reference to the joke David. Again, please don't take this the wrong way, those whom know me on the forum know my intentions are well centered. Do as you wish and I hope all the safety and and safe travels on your journey that one can hope for. Please take lots of pictures as I would like to see some of your journey.
That said, if it were me (which you are not) free will and all, I would not carry less than a 10 mm if it was my trip unless/ in addition to you have 2 buddies watching with their heads screwed on and attentive with using outdoor facilities (if that is the scenario) with a .300 Win Mag each. Bear minimum, pun intended, I have a 10 mm that has 220 or 230 Bear loads at like 1200 fps and 500 to 700 muzzle energy. They are called Bear Loads on box, hot and heavy stuff. Even use Buffalo Bore which is also hot JHP but expensive at
close to 2 buck a round if possible.
Do as you wish as I stated but where I live sometimes even going out alone or with buddies, the only person you can really count on is yourself, depending on situation. Very remote here ( not Alaska of course but an area that has no cell service for 50 to 70 miles I call remote) and we have black bears but they are far from me.
Just a locally sad example there was an uncle killed here in a hunting party of FOUR by a Grizzly mistaken for a Black Bear. Just wounded and pissed off but could happen if you stumble across protective Momma and Cubs which I think fall in this general time of year.
Wounded, pissed off and think a Black Bear, chased into the brush.
The attached story is slightly different from another article and local folks I talked to. Could not find the original article after the Coroner and ME sorted out the post mortem details.
Basically, from what I understand, they shot this Grizzly mistakening it for a Black Bear, chase it into the brush, Uncle got mauled and this young local kid shot the Bear thru the top of his back and right through his Uncle with a hunting rifle, unsure of caliber. I fully understand that it seems based on your comments that bear hunting is not planned but feel my comments still apply.
If I sound like a dark cloud on your post, so be it. Sad and true story. Not my intention. Some serious stuff and no joking.
The air travel part sucks, you, get it but my suggestion is, pack the largest caliber handgun you can carry. The large caliber stuff to handle bears does no good besides in your hand and even then, people have died with gun in hand since the bears are so fast.
For reference, I know a guy that lived in Alaska and he, the LEOs, everyone had a 12 guage at minimum with Glazer Slugs (I think they call them) and these were not rural folks. From what I understand, these slugs will go through 2 telephone poles stacked one behind the other side if confronted with a Grizzly attacking. If true, that is a serious round. Shot lots of double ought buckshot in critters. Minimum I personally would take if a shotgun. As I said and will continue to say, to each his own, just how I do it.
Do as you wish. I hope you safe travels. Some may gauge my comments as overkill, so be it." Rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it". To each his own. Just want to hear of good times and pics when you return.

BTW, I am an avid Hunter and Outdoorsman and have zero interest in hunting bear as much as I do hunting a Mountain Lion with dogs, treeing it and blowing a big cat out of a tree. Not my bag. However, I know they are capable of and try to be slightly over prepared even if I never need what I bring.

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2017 Springfield Armory M1A ::ds::
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Congratulations Ranger. ::tu:: That is a superb looking rifle. The M-14 was the first rifle I learned to fire. I've heard it said that one always loves their first rifle. In my case it is definitely true. Have appreciated and enjoyed many other weapons, but have never fallen out of love with the M-14.
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rangerbluedog wrote:2017 Springfield Armory M1A ::ds::
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Looks to be a fine specimen, you have there, Blue!!! ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
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Thanks,
I've had 'em come and go in the past, but I think this one is a keeper. I spent this evening rubbing in a good coat of boiled linseed oil on the stock. Not gonna get to test it on the range until Saturday.
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Found this Ruger 45 while on vacation, like new with 3 magazines
Shoots great and good fit. ::tu::
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Camillus wrote:Found this Ruger 45 while on vacation, like new with 3 magazines
Shoots great and good fit. ::tu::
I have that gun in stainless and I love it.
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That's a beauty ::tu:: nice find..
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Thanks guys
I stole it for $250
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I had one in stainless and should have kept it! Little hard to carry concealed is why I sold it.
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Camillus wrote:Thanks guys
I stole it for $250

That is a heckova deal right there. ::tu::
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Camillus wrote:Thanks guys
I stole it for $250
That's an understatement !!
Now get some Federal Hydra-Shok JHP's and hit the range ... ::tu::
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I love that M-14. That was the rifle we trained with in Infantry AIT at Ft. Ord in 1968.

What a sweet weapon.

9.5 lbs, empty weight, as I recall, although that might have been the weight of the M-1 Garand I trained with in Basic at Ft. Campbell.

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rangerbluedog wrote:2017 Springfield Armory M1A ::ds::
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Beautiful looking firearm. Love the work you have done with the stock. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
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cudgee wrote:
rangerbluedog wrote:2017 Springfield Armory M1A ::ds::
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Beautiful looking firearm. Love the work you have done with the stock. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Thanks cudgee. The stock comes from Springfield Armory pretty dry looking. The picture was after a couple of hand rubbed coats of boiled linseed oil.
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rangerbluedog wrote:
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rangerbluedog wrote:2017 Springfield Armory M1A ::ds::
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Beautiful looking firearm. Love the work you have done with the stock. ::tu:: ::tu:: ::tu::
Thanks cudgee. The stock comes from Springfield Armory pretty dry looking. The picture was after a couple of hand rubbed coats of boiled linseed oil.
When you say "boiled linseed" do mean you actually boil it? Or is it a generic name? Never heard of this!!! How do you apply it, i would like to try it on some old knifes i have, to see how it works.
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Charlie, After basic at Ft.Polk in 66 I did AIT at Ft. Ord. After that it was all M-16.
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cudgee wrote:When you say "boiled linseed" do mean you actually boil it? Or is it a generic name? Never heard of this!!! How do you apply it, i would like to try it on some old knifes i have, to see how it works.
Do you not have Google down under ?
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Boiled linseed oil comes already 'boiled' and packaged.
Though, my understanding is it's not actually boiled, but other solvents or chemicals
are added to make it act different. Has to do with drying time, I think

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::woot:: While being a Snipe ( that's a guy who works in the enginroom) we didn't train with any weapons. I got to shoot an M1 off the fantail with the gunnersmates while they were practicing? ::rotflol::
BTW Nice Ruger, $250 WOW! ftd
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I never actually trained with the M-16.

After AIT at Ord, there was Jump school, then SF Training Group. We carried M-16’s, but I never fired one.

Then I went to 6th SF Grp at Ft Bragg. I was on an A-Team there and when we trained in the field, I carried an M-16.

When I got to Ft Lewis, enroute to Vietnam, they discovered I had never qualified on the weapon, so they took me and some others to a range and I qualified expert.

A week later, I was in Vietnam, carrying a CAR-15. I would love to have a repro of that.

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Never got to fire the CAR-15. Desireable but rare, tho one of the advisors had one.
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In 1962 we were one of the first boot camp platoons at MCRD San Diego to be issued the M-14. They were fresh out of the crate and still in the Cosmoline. They set up a couple of GI cans, with immersion heaters in them and we cleaned them by dunking them in the hot water in the GI cans. Took us a couple of days to get them clean enough for inspection, then we sat on our buckets out on the platoon street and rubbed Linseed oil into the stocks. Some of them had some gorgeous wood but they all shined like a diamond in a goat's a##. Loved that rifle.

Carried the M-1 during ITR (Infantry Training Regiment the month after boot camp). Didn't care much for it. Never touched an M-16. Did see some during my last year in the Corps in Viet Nam. Mostly Doggies had them. McNamara's Rodent Rifle. Heard a lot of bad things about it jamming and such if it wasn't kept inspection ready clean. ::shrug:: Rumors. You know how the military is about stuff like that.
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::dang:: Jerry rumors in the military? Shirley not! I think they start out Hey this ain't no s...! And don't call you Shirley, Right! ftd
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Ferg, you're right. Any sea story worth it's salt starts out with "this ain't no s...!"
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The initial problems with the M-16 came from the decisions of Robert S. McNamara. Because the Army had stockpiles of old powder he ordered it used in the new cartridges. Never mind if it didn't meet the specifications. Then, based on WWII experience, the military asked that the M-16
barrels and receivers be chromed. This helped greatly in the humidity drenched Pacific. Mr. McNamara struck again saying, "If Stoner had wanted them chromed he would have made them that way."

Once these initial blunders had been overcome, the M-16 achieved the potential of its brilliant design.
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